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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4245352.2 as reply to 4245352.1 |
| To: Taste1 | 22-10-2005, at 12:42 |
| Also, the contribution
of winger skill for all positions (wing backs and midfielders, especially wingers) except those with "Towards middle" behaviour,
has been boosted somewhat. After some discussion on the Dutch questions forum, I'd like to ask your opinion on this matter. What
is the contribution of IM's to wing attack at this moment? And will it be important in the future? Or does this only start to get
interesting when you play an inner mid towards wing? If it were to important, then finding good trainees for pm trainers will be
hell - they need pm, passing, defending, wing and preferrably already some stamina!!
Inner mids playing Toward Wing have always had a winger skill contribution. That contribution has now been increased. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4245352.8 as reply to 4245352.3 |
| To: Mod-Wizard | 22-10-2005, at 12:53 |
| so this statemend
concerns only MTW and not normal, defensive or offensive M, right?
Since only MTW has a wing contribution to boost, only that is affected yes. We certainly have not added winger skill contribution to positions that never had had any winger skill contribution. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4245352.13 as reply to 4245352.11 |
| To: AmonRaZZ | 22-10-2005, at 13:01 |
| Except for forwards, I
presume.
Exactly. :) |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.24 as reply to 4244356.10 |
| To: Ratsia | 22-10-2005, at 12:24 |
| CLARIFICATION:
FTW contributes less to center attacks than normal forwards. The contribution from FTW to center attacks is, however, somewhat bigger than it is to the opposite side. FTW winger skill only contributes to attack on his own wing. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.29 as reply to 4244356.19 |
| To: Ratsia | 22-10-2005, at 12:31 |
| In that case the
announcement should definitely be fixed.
There will be another announcement showrtly that clarifies this issue. I could have sworn I wrote something about the reduction to center attack, but obviously I didn't. I will however wait a couple of hours or so until I have made sure that aren't other things that also need to be clarified before posting the new message. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.31 as reply to 4244356.22 |
| To: Mr_Booze | 22-10-2005, at 12:33 |
| I have allways seen it
as a little unfair that you could get a reasonable wing-attack only by having two forwards with very high "Scoring".
Yes, this is one of the issues that is being addressed with this change. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.33 as reply to 4244356.25 |
| To: maorn | 22-10-2005, at 12:35 |
| What I meant is:
If you have a Forward Towards wing going towards your right wing, then his contribution to center attacks is smaller than his contribution to right wing attacks, but his contribution to center attacks is bigger than his contribution to left wing attacks. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.37 as reply to 4244356.34 |
| To: MOD-Piwiks | 22-10-2005, at 12:37 |
| Further information on the new training mentioned in the 2005-09-12 posting one will be announced when the time is right for so doing. ;) | |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.39 as reply to 4244356.36 |
| To: Taste1 | 22-10-2005, at 12:39 |
| Will you clarify further
the influence on winging skills for Inner mids? Or do we have to guess? ;)
What do you need to have clarified? Inner mids only use winger skill (and quite little at that) when they are played Towards Wing. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.45 as reply to 4244356.42 |
| To: IrRichman | 22-10-2005, at 12:51 |
| Does the central attack
rating stay the same for normal forwards?
Yes. You certainly have a valid point that the net effect of these changes will be slightly less goals overall as attacks are generally reduced, give the current composition of teams and players. There will be a period of adjustment before goal rates are back to normal. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.59 as reply to 4244356.51 |
| To: IrRichman | 22-10-2005, at 13:17 |
| I still think it's an
interesting tactic, but I really would not be happy if all forwards would drop in value...
If anything, more likely the opposite: If people come to think that their team's attack power is too weak they will buy better forwards, thus making prices rise. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.62 as reply to 4244356.60 |
| To: IrRichman | 22-10-2005, at 13:20 |
| Winger skill ONLY
contributes to players clearly ordered to move on the wings.
Wing-backs, Inner backs playing toward wing, wingers, IM playing towards wing and Forwards playing toward wing are the ones who can use their wing skill. I think this makes a lot of sense if you think about it. :) |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.69 as reply to 4244356.65 |
| To: IrRichman | 22-10-2005, at 13:34 |
| It does, but that makes
my argument for increased central attack contibution even stronger!
Even with a nice winger subskill, a normal forward will be less effective as a centre forward, if you look at the total attack ratings thus: you could only use that winger skill if you reduce CA a lot As I said - you do have a point. :) This is not how we have done it this time, but since your point is valid, it will be assimilated into the vast heap of valid points that affects future decisions. :) |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.81 as reply to 4244356.71 |
| To: Jilkocfc | 22-10-2005, at 14:57 |
| A FTW uses his winger
skill to increase wing attack, but not his scoring skill.
No, not correct. FTW uses a lot of winger skill AND a lot of scorer skill on attacks on his flank. For attacks in the middle and on the opposite wing, he just uses scorer skill (and less of it than he does on his own wing). |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.126 as reply to 4244356.123 |
| To: jsival | 23-10-2005, at 11:47 |
| I think that is
bullshit. An extra innermid plays just like a normal innermid (of course with a penalty) and not more like a defending
innermid.
Correct. If this was not the case, we would have written so in the rules. |
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| By: HT-Bjorn | 4244356.127 as reply to 4244356.125 |
| To: Morelos | 23-10-2005, at 11:48 |
| he plays like a
defensive im, what is in my opinion also logical and correct.
No he does not, the rules do not say so, and it would not be logical. The theory above is just mythology based on nothing in the rules or that we have said. |
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