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User talk:Jhattara

2007-04-11T16:58:26Z

217.132.71.134:

Man we have a serieus saboteur at work. I see you have reverted quite some pages. He seems to change ip all the time. What is it that he inserts in those pages anyway? I can't see a thing untill I click edit, then a whole list of links and stuff appears. The poor bastard can't feed his children he claims. Do you know what it is?

== Wiki admins ==

Please take a look at [[Hattrick:Administrators]]. --[[User:Ukelele|ukelele]] 14:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

== Flag templates ==

Hi; I've changed the names of the [[Hattrick:Flag templates]] and also i've moved the content of "Hattrick:National team templates" to that page. I'm changing the links to get the "National team templates" deletable, but there is one under your user space ([[Special:Whatlinkshere?target=Hattrick:National_team_templates]]). --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 16:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, I know that I have to change the pages using them. I expect to change them in the next days. --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 06:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

== Delete template ==

Sorry about the discrepancy... it should be <nowiki>{{Delete|11-2006}}</nowiki>. You may want to have a look at [[HT:ARD]] (which I just wrote) and add your input as well.
-[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 08:23:52, 2006-11-06 (UTC)

== Soccer/Football ==

I didn't make the reverts because I think soccer should be used. To me, the terms are used interchangably on a global scale. I respect those in Sweden (what we call their country in America) by calling it by the local name of Sverige when I'm talking on a global forum, and I think that others should do the same. If an American writes soccer, especially when talking about an American who plays soccer (the Mod-Lytic page), then he should be able to without someone going through and replacing every instance of soccer with football. That is why I went through and made the reverts, because the original author chose to use soccer. [[User:Kc-jake|-- Jake]] 19:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

He's got a point Jhattara. Europeans prefer to use the term football because in Europe football means one thing & one thing only, however we have to accept that to users in the US (& in other areas of the world where there are competing codes of football) then soccer may be a more culturally pertinent term of reference.It serves to differentiate it from other forms of football such as gridiron (or aussie rules).

--[[User:FFHF-Escafeld|FFHF-Escafeld]] 22:43, November 29, 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to clarify that I don't intend to set a standard where every reference to the sport is changed to soccer or anything; I'm making the point that the original editor's terms should be kept. If the editor makes up a word or says the wrong thing (can instead of can't, should instead of will, etc) then it can be changed. But I think that if the original editor writes soccer, it should be left as soccer; and if the original editor writes football, it should be left as football. Or futbol. Or footie. [[User:Kc-jake|-- Jake]] 16:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

== Translating ==

I come from Hong Kong, and I would like to translate the menu and some article(such as rules and newbie tips...) into Chinese, coz there is a trend of increasing in the number of users in Hattrick China, Hong Kong and Chinese Taipei.

Please tell me what I should do.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 23:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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May I use hk, cn or tw as the link, cause I mainly make this for Hong Kong people.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 02:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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May I ask if I can use [[zh-yue]], there is also [http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki zh-yue] in Wikipedia

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 23:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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Zh is normal Chinese, mostly used in [[China]] and [[Chinese Taipei]].

Zh-yue is Chinese also but in Cantonese, mostly used in [[Hong Kong]] and [[Guangdong ]](One of the China regions)

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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They are same language, but difference dialect, so difference in text(sometimes are the same).

Not just like 5-5-0, 5-5-0 is an article

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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For the tag, I will ad afer I have finish all the main articles.

"I see no reason for you not to use also Zh-yue/ folder." My english understanding is not really good, I want to ask the sentence above, do you mean that I can use [[Zh-yue/]] folder??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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Just after I read your message, I felt happy, but 10minutes later, I found that there is only me editing Chinese Wiki, if I have to translate two languages, I will waste lots of time!!

Maybe I will do the [[Zh-yue/]] after I have find some helper.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

== 1st Division League ==

May I change it back to [[1st Division League (Hong Kong)]]??

Cause 1st Division League is a common name for the top series in quite a few of country!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

--Re: Re: 1st Division League

I thought it is the default name, then it is OK now!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Zh/Flag/ templates ==

I blanked them is just because there is no Chinese name for the country in Hattrick, I just want to change it back to English.

I am sorry.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, then I will now start to create more Chinese HT country page with [[User:Aurandon]]

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I found the golden boot on the team page of the Hattrick Masters winner Hapoel Nahariya (340770).

[[User:Susande|Susande]] 17:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

== canton is not a ht-country ==

The title show what you write as comment on your edit in my user page.

But I got to show you something: http://wiki.hattrick.org/Team

Go to the bottom, and try the link of Hong Kong, it is already Cantonese Clubs as default.

Try other country's link, they all use their national language as prefix of their link, and Hong Kong people use contonese, so the default is right, so please don't change it back to Hong Kong clubs.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: canton is not a ht-country

This time I got to explain the history of Hong Kong...

Hong Kong is part of China, Hong Kong people mostly come from the [[Guangdong]] province, in English, we call this province "Canton", the people from "Canton" is Cantonese!!

Therefore, Hong Kong people is also Cantonese, there is no word which describe Hong Kong, we don't use Chinese or we will make confusion, therefore, Cantonese is the only choice.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Re: canton is not a ht-country

I was wasting time to debate with you, cause I am wrong and you are right.

Then who is the first one to put Cantonese in the Hong Kong Team Category??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== Match Report Template ==

[[Template:Match_report_new]]

There is one [[Team:DDT_Mathematics_United/League/Season_15/Round_5|Exmaple]] of my match.

I create this template, and partly copy from [[Template:Match_report]]

I just want to ask if this can be used in the final of the World Cup, U-20 World Cup and Hattrick Master finals, I think it will be good eh.

p.s. Now the possession is still doen't look like the one in Hattrick, but similar.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 02:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Match Report Template

That's why I said World Cup, U-20 World Cup and Hattrick Master finals, just a few matches.

World Cup: 8Finals

U-20 World Cup: 8Finals

Hattrick Masters: 4Finals

Total: 20Finals

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 11:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

==Re: Show preview==

There is aa problem which I am going to show you:

At first, I have added(or delete) something on/from a page, then I save it.(For safety reason, won't lose my edits)

And then, I have to continue adding, after I save it, I found that the page only show my seconds edit, but the first edit are disappear.

Then, I added the stuff which I have added in the first edit, after saving, I show my 3rd edit(Also the first), but the 2nd edit lost.

That's why I have to edit so many time, I still don't know why it was happening...
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 11:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

==Regions of the Netherlands==
Hi Jhattara! why did you deleted the words '''"Dutch overseas regions"''' in the [[Template:Regions Nederland]]? It was more clearly/specific than the current version, and after all, they are Dutch overseas regions. Greetings! [[User:Mavuba|Mavuba]] 22:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==
Hi! I notice their is a lot of vandalism on this wiki. I think it should be a good idea to insert a captcha, like on HT clubhouses. Or instead of that captcha only let registered users edit the wiki. I don't think the last option is a good option, but it's better then this vandalism.
I'm writing this in your talk because I see you delete spam or reverse vandalised pages a lot.
Just my 2 cents. --[[User:Rob184|Rob184]] 23:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== Complaining on [[User:Aurandon]] ==

[[Zh/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%86_U-20_%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%9D%AF#.E6.B1.BA.E8.B3.BD|Chinese version of U-20 World Cup I - Final]]

[[User:Aurandon|Aurandon]] added his own comments in chinese:
雙方上演了一場實力懸殊的決賽，令5萬多名現場觀眾有點失望。瑞典憑高達7成的控球時間，全場控制大局，以狂風掃落葉
的姿態，狂數大洋洲7球，當中當時效力 Gunners AFC 的 Andreas Edvinsson 及己退休的 Ove Selén 均梅開二度，
協助瑞典取得首屆 U-20 世界杯冠軍。以U-20國家隊來說，中場評級達神秘莫測實在極為難得。

I don't think it is objective, please tell him to put it to the [[Talk:Zh/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%86_U-20_%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%9D%AF?action=edit|Talk of U-20 World Cup I (Chinese version)]]

A little add, May you assign me to be the moderator of Chinese Hattrick Wiki?

I asked this because the 5 [[:Category:Administrators|Admin]] don't know chinese(I think they don't, including you)

And you won't understand what the people add on the page, but I do.

I will reported my moderate to you every time I think I have to.

I know this is sudden and you will be 99.99% rejecting me, but I think a moderator for each language is needed, even in the Russian Hattrick Wiki need one.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Complaining on [[User:Aurandon]]
The text:
<div style="border: 1px dotted #BCB888; color: black; background-color: #FFF8DF; padding: 1em; margin: 0.5em;" id="disambig"> A match with '''differnce level of teams''', which make more than 50000 audience '''disappointed'''. Sweeden had 70% of the possession, controlling the whole match, bombed 7 goals to Oceania in a '''crazy way'''{{ref|ref-1}}, in the match, both Andreas Edvinsson from Gunners AFC and Ove Selén who is retired scored two goals, helping Sweeden get the U-20 World Cup I. In U-20 teams, a midfield of supernatural is '''difficult to see'''.</div>

Bold words are the words which I think it is not objective.

Note:
#{{note|ref-1}} crazy way (a chinese phrase, which mean a stronger stuff beaten up a weaker stuff very crazy, I translated it to carzy way)

I can't see [[User:Tjecken]]'s user page or talk page have anything, should I talk to him in Hattrick game message??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Great!! Thank you...

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 08:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

== Unofficial National Champoionship ==

As I want to do this article for Hong Kong.

But I got a few question to ask.

1. Hong Kong was a region in China before it defined as a country in Hattrick World.

Then should I pick the match in China of the first two Hong Kong human player meet

or

First match since Hong Kong is defined as a country in HT World??

2. If the answer for last question is ''First match since Hong Kong is defined as a country in HT World''

Then which match should I choose from if there are more than one matches playing at the same time??

The smaller MatchId??

Reference: http://www.hattrick.org/Common/leagueFixtures.asp?LeagueLevelunitID=13508&Season=1

(Just add the number after ''www'' same as the one that you see after you have logged in.)

P.S. Have you contact Aurandon about the personal comments on the U-20 World Cup page??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

That's good, because HK best ever team is also one of the team in that match!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Re:Ru/Auto-promotion ==
Actually, all Russian editors can't find exact translation of these two terms. Some Russian HT users just use the russian spelling of english terms like Автопромоушен(Auto-promotion) and Скиллтрейдинг(for Skill trading). So it was decided not to translate these terms since the exact translation would be found. --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

What for? I think it's more correct to leave them in English, as now --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to find the correct version for all articles with English names. I hope, I'll do it today. --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
BTW, we are not planning to translate names of Federations, for example, so, there will be two (or even more) alphabets anyway! --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

That's me again :) Some terms like Clubhouse aren't translated to Russian even in HT. What do you prefer: to translate them in wiki anyway, or to leave their English name? --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

So, you see, it's impossible to get rid of English terms in Russian wiki :( --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Re:Empty pages ==
I am sorry that I don't know the code(template) for deleted page.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Category: Administrators ==
Ahh, I must have had a brain lapse while going through those! Sorry about that --[[User:SassineFC|SassineFC]] 14:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

==Categories==
As you have noticed i've been working on categorizing all the current pages and am finally finished! I've added a category (Category:Miscellaneous) that contains a handful of articles that I couldn't determine an appropriate category but may not be candidates for deletion (a big may).--[[User:SassineFC|SassineFC]] 19:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Russian administrator? ==
Will there be any Russian administrator in wiki? %) --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 08:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

--I asked HT-Tjecken in game message two weeks ago, I told him that I am the one who mainly edit Chinese page, and I want to be the Chinese HT Wiki moderator. Around 7-9days later, he replyied and now I am one of the administrators, I think you may ask HT-Tjecken in game message as well. [[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

==Protecting page==
I want to protect my team page in Hattrick Wiki: [[Team:DDT Mathematics United]]

Will that violate the rule of Administrator?? Cause I don't want the other to edit my team page.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Alright then!![[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

== The Hebrew Wiki ==

There is also hattrick wiki in Hebrew named: "Wikattrick", here-

http://he.hattrick.wikia.com

I'll be glad if you will add it to the main page - thanks!

Omer

User talk:Jhattara

2007-04-11T16:57:44Z

217.132.71.134:

Man we have a serieus saboteur at work. I see you have reverted quite some pages. He seems to change ip all the time. What is it that he inserts in those pages anyway? I can't see a thing untill I click edit, then a whole list of links and stuff appears. The poor bastard can't feed his children he claims. Do you know what it is?

== Wiki admins ==

Please take a look at [[Hattrick:Administrators]]. --[[User:Ukelele|ukelele]] 14:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

== Flag templates ==

Hi; I've changed the names of the [[Hattrick:Flag templates]] and also i've moved the content of "Hattrick:National team templates" to that page. I'm changing the links to get the "National team templates" deletable, but there is one under your user space ([[Special:Whatlinkshere?target=Hattrick:National_team_templates]]). --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 16:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, I know that I have to change the pages using them. I expect to change them in the next days. --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 06:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

== Delete template ==

Sorry about the discrepancy... it should be <nowiki>{{Delete|11-2006}}</nowiki>. You may want to have a look at [[HT:ARD]] (which I just wrote) and add your input as well.
-[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 08:23:52, 2006-11-06 (UTC)

== Soccer/Football ==

I didn't make the reverts because I think soccer should be used. To me, the terms are used interchangably on a global scale. I respect those in Sweden (what we call their country in America) by calling it by the local name of Sverige when I'm talking on a global forum, and I think that others should do the same. If an American writes soccer, especially when talking about an American who plays soccer (the Mod-Lytic page), then he should be able to without someone going through and replacing every instance of soccer with football. That is why I went through and made the reverts, because the original author chose to use soccer. [[User:Kc-jake|-- Jake]] 19:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

He's got a point Jhattara. Europeans prefer to use the term football because in Europe football means one thing & one thing only, however we have to accept that to users in the US (& in other areas of the world where there are competing codes of football) then soccer may be a more culturally pertinent term of reference.It serves to differentiate it from other forms of football such as gridiron (or aussie rules).

--[[User:FFHF-Escafeld|FFHF-Escafeld]] 22:43, November 29, 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to clarify that I don't intend to set a standard where every reference to the sport is changed to soccer or anything; I'm making the point that the original editor's terms should be kept. If the editor makes up a word or says the wrong thing (can instead of can't, should instead of will, etc) then it can be changed. But I think that if the original editor writes soccer, it should be left as soccer; and if the original editor writes football, it should be left as football. Or futbol. Or footie. [[User:Kc-jake|-- Jake]] 16:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

== Translating ==

I come from Hong Kong, and I would like to translate the menu and some article(such as rules and newbie tips...) into Chinese, coz there is a trend of increasing in the number of users in Hattrick China, Hong Kong and Chinese Taipei.

Please tell me what I should do.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 23:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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May I use hk, cn or tw as the link, cause I mainly make this for Hong Kong people.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 02:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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May I ask if I can use [[zh-yue]], there is also [http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki zh-yue] in Wikipedia

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 23:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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Zh is normal Chinese, mostly used in [[China]] and [[Chinese Taipei]].

Zh-yue is Chinese also but in Cantonese, mostly used in [[Hong Kong]] and [[Guangdong ]](One of the China regions)

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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They are same language, but difference dialect, so difference in text(sometimes are the same).

Not just like 5-5-0, 5-5-0 is an article

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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For the tag, I will ad afer I have finish all the main articles.

"I see no reason for you not to use also Zh-yue/ folder." My english understanding is not really good, I want to ask the sentence above, do you mean that I can use [[Zh-yue/]] folder??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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Just after I read your message, I felt happy, but 10minutes later, I found that there is only me editing Chinese Wiki, if I have to translate two languages, I will waste lots of time!!

Maybe I will do the [[Zh-yue/]] after I have find some helper.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

== 1st Division League ==

May I change it back to [[1st Division League (Hong Kong)]]??

Cause 1st Division League is a common name for the top series in quite a few of country!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

--Re: Re: 1st Division League

I thought it is the default name, then it is OK now!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Zh/Flag/ templates ==

I blanked them is just because there is no Chinese name for the country in Hattrick, I just want to change it back to English.

I am sorry.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, then I will now start to create more Chinese HT country page with [[User:Aurandon]]

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I found the golden boot on the team page of the Hattrick Masters winner Hapoel Nahariya (340770).

[[User:Susande|Susande]] 17:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

== canton is not a ht-country ==

The title show what you write as comment on your edit in my user page.

But I got to show you something: http://wiki.hattrick.org/Team

Go to the bottom, and try the link of Hong Kong, it is already Cantonese Clubs as default.

Try other country's link, they all use their national language as prefix of their link, and Hong Kong people use contonese, so the default is right, so please don't change it back to Hong Kong clubs.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: canton is not a ht-country

This time I got to explain the history of Hong Kong...

Hong Kong is part of China, Hong Kong people mostly come from the [[Guangdong]] province, in English, we call this province "Canton", the people from "Canton" is Cantonese!!

Therefore, Hong Kong people is also Cantonese, there is no word which describe Hong Kong, we don't use Chinese or we will make confusion, therefore, Cantonese is the only choice.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Re: canton is not a ht-country

I was wasting time to debate with you, cause I am wrong and you are right.

Then who is the first one to put Cantonese in the Hong Kong Team Category??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== Match Report Template ==

[[Template:Match_report_new]]

There is one [[Team:DDT_Mathematics_United/League/Season_15/Round_5|Exmaple]] of my match.

I create this template, and partly copy from [[Template:Match_report]]

I just want to ask if this can be used in the final of the World Cup, U-20 World Cup and Hattrick Master finals, I think it will be good eh.

p.s. Now the possession is still doen't look like the one in Hattrick, but similar.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 02:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Match Report Template

That's why I said World Cup, U-20 World Cup and Hattrick Master finals, just a few matches.

World Cup: 8Finals

U-20 World Cup: 8Finals

Hattrick Masters: 4Finals

Total: 20Finals

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 11:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

==Re: Show preview==

There is aa problem which I am going to show you:

At first, I have added(or delete) something on/from a page, then I save it.(For safety reason, won't lose my edits)

And then, I have to continue adding, after I save it, I found that the page only show my seconds edit, but the first edit are disappear.

Then, I added the stuff which I have added in the first edit, after saving, I show my 3rd edit(Also the first), but the 2nd edit lost.

That's why I have to edit so many time, I still don't know why it was happening...
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 11:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

==Regions of the Netherlands==
Hi Jhattara! why did you deleted the words '''"Dutch overseas regions"''' in the [[Template:Regions Nederland]]? It was more clearly/specific than the current version, and after all, they are Dutch overseas regions. Greetings! [[User:Mavuba|Mavuba]] 22:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==
Hi! I notice their is a lot of vandalism on this wiki. I think it should be a good idea to insert a captcha, like on HT clubhouses. Or instead of that captcha only let registered users edit the wiki. I don't think the last option is a good option, but it's better then this vandalism.
I'm writing this in your talk because I see you delete spam or reverse vandalised pages a lot.
Just my 2 cents. --[[User:Rob184|Rob184]] 23:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== Complaining on [[User:Aurandon]] ==

[[Zh/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%86_U-20_%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%9D%AF#.E6.B1.BA.E8.B3.BD|Chinese version of U-20 World Cup I - Final]]

[[User:Aurandon|Aurandon]] added his own comments in chinese:
雙方上演了一場實力懸殊的決賽，令5萬多名現場觀眾有點失望。瑞典憑高達7成的控球時間，全場控制大局，以狂風掃落葉
的姿態，狂數大洋洲7球，當中當時效力 Gunners AFC 的 Andreas Edvinsson 及己退休的 Ove Selén 均梅開二度，
協助瑞典取得首屆 U-20 世界杯冠軍。以U-20國家隊來說，中場評級達神秘莫測實在極為難得。

I don't think it is objective, please tell him to put it to the [[Talk:Zh/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%86_U-20_%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%9D%AF?action=edit|Talk of U-20 World Cup I (Chinese version)]]

A little add, May you assign me to be the moderator of Chinese Hattrick Wiki?

I asked this because the 5 [[:Category:Administrators|Admin]] don't know chinese(I think they don't, including you)

And you won't understand what the people add on the page, but I do.

I will reported my moderate to you every time I think I have to.

I know this is sudden and you will be 99.99% rejecting me, but I think a moderator for each language is needed, even in the Russian Hattrick Wiki need one.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Complaining on [[User:Aurandon]]
The text:
<div style="border: 1px dotted #BCB888; color: black; background-color: #FFF8DF; padding: 1em; margin: 0.5em;" id="disambig"> A match with '''differnce level of teams''', which make more than 50000 audience '''disappointed'''. Sweeden had 70% of the possession, controlling the whole match, bombed 7 goals to Oceania in a '''crazy way'''{{ref|ref-1}}, in the match, both Andreas Edvinsson from Gunners AFC and Ove Selén who is retired scored two goals, helping Sweeden get the U-20 World Cup I. In U-20 teams, a midfield of supernatural is '''difficult to see'''.</div>

Bold words are the words which I think it is not objective.

Note:
#{{note|ref-1}} crazy way (a chinese phrase, which mean a stronger stuff beaten up a weaker stuff very crazy, I translated it to carzy way)

I can't see [[User:Tjecken]]'s user page or talk page have anything, should I talk to him in Hattrick game message??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Great!! Thank you...

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 08:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

== Unofficial National Champoionship ==

As I want to do this article for Hong Kong.

But I got a few question to ask.

1. Hong Kong was a region in China before it defined as a country in Hattrick World.

Then should I pick the match in China of the first two Hong Kong human player meet

or

First match since Hong Kong is defined as a country in HT World??

2. If the answer for last question is ''First match since Hong Kong is defined as a country in HT World''

Then which match should I choose from if there are more than one matches playing at the same time??

The smaller MatchId??

Reference: http://www.hattrick.org/Common/leagueFixtures.asp?LeagueLevelunitID=13508&Season=1

(Just add the number after ''www'' same as the one that you see after you have logged in.)

P.S. Have you contact Aurandon about the personal comments on the U-20 World Cup page??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

That's good, because HK best ever team is also one of the team in that match!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Re:Ru/Auto-promotion ==
Actually, all Russian editors can't find exact translation of these two terms. Some Russian HT users just use the russian spelling of english terms like Автопромоушен(Auto-promotion) and Скиллтрейдинг(for Skill trading). So it was decided not to translate these terms since the exact translation would be found. --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

What for? I think it's more correct to leave them in English, as now --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to find the correct version for all articles with English names. I hope, I'll do it today. --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
BTW, we are not planning to translate names of Federations, for example, so, there will be two (or even more) alphabets anyway! --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

That's me again :) Some terms like Clubhouse aren't translated to Russian even in HT. What do you prefer: to translate them in wiki anyway, or to leave their English name? --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

So, you see, it's impossible to get rid of English terms in Russian wiki :( --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Re:Empty pages ==
I am sorry that I don't know the code(template) for deleted page.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Category: Administrators ==
Ahh, I must have had a brain lapse while going through those! Sorry about that --[[User:SassineFC|SassineFC]] 14:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

==Categories==
As you have noticed i've been working on categorizing all the current pages and am finally finished! I've added a category (Category:Miscellaneous) that contains a handful of articles that I couldn't determine an appropriate category but may not be candidates for deletion (a big may).--[[User:SassineFC|SassineFC]] 19:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Russian administrator? ==
Will there be any Russian administrator in wiki? %) --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 08:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

--I asked HT-Tjecken in game message two weeks ago, I told him that I am the one who mainly edit Chinese page, and I want to be the Chinese HT Wiki moderator. Around 7-9days later, he replyied and now I am one of the administrators, I think you may ask HT-Tjecken in game message as well. [[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

==Protecting page==
I want to protect my team page in Hattrick Wiki: [[Team:DDT Mathematics United]]

Will that violate the rule of Administrator?? Cause I don't want the other to edit my team page.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Alright then!![[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

== The Hebrew Wiki ==

There is also hattrick wiki in Hebrew named: "Wikattrick", here-
http://he.hattrick.wikia.com
I'll be glad if you will add it to the main page - thanks!
Omer

Talk:Main Page

2007-04-09T11:24:54Z

217.132.71.134: /* Main Page */

== Main Page ==

We need some framework for the main page. Perhaps a Featured Article section, or even a featured club section, along with links to different subpages for the wiki. Also, some pictures would REALLY help some of these pages get on their feet. I'll do what I can, but from now on anyone making a new page should add an appropriate picture, if possible. For instance, if you are making a page for a certain nation, it should include their flag.

---[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 00:36:42, 2005-11-28 (UTC)

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[[User:GM-Lau|GM-Lau]] 19:57, 25 November 2005 (UTC): People are forever messing with trailing dots after ''/The [[Hattrick Team]]''

As far as I'm concerned we forgo this dot.

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Shall we scrap the Introduction? I mean, it takes up valuable space, and we'd be better off having featured articles, expanding the content, adding links to projects, popular pages, etc... That is, a framework mentioned at the top of the discussion by an unknown person. --[[User:Catalyst2950|Catalyst2950]] 21:07, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

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The unknown person would be me... it was originally part of a 2nd paragraph which got split up from the other comments by someone.
--[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 00:36:42, 2005-11-28 (UTC)

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I think we should also include the main categories (=Portals). ATM it looks only like a help page.
Problem: What are the main categories and how should we call them?
we have:
* Countries, Regions, Zones, Continents in "Geography"
* Players
* Clubs
* Users
* Federations
* Gameplay
i would also add:
* national teams (inclusive World Cups category)
* (HT site navigation)

a wikipedia example is the Portal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Science Science]<br>
here are templates for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Main_page_and_alternatives main pages]

--[[User:Shyrlden|Shyrlden]] 18:41, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

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ok, i have created the navbar template. Perhaps we should merge "Users" & "Federations" under a "Community" roof. (then we could also include the categories "HT-Radio stadions" & "External HT-Portals" there).--[[User:Shyrlden|Shyrlden]] 13:10, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

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The Hebrew Wikattrick:

http://he.hattrick.wikia.com

I'll be glad if you will add this link to the main page. Thanks!

== Layout boxes ==
I have created some layout boxes in [[Meta:Sandbox]] yesterday. If nobody objects, tomorrow I'll copy the [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] category content here on the main page and make the whole thing more accessible. Hopefully Htsysop will then clean up the sidebar because it's almost, but not entirely, unlike being usable. We should also really write some [[Editing Guidelines]] to be visibly linked as well, since there's still a whole lot of "I think", "I have", "You should" and ":)" in the articles... --[[User:Catalyst2950|Catalyst2950]] 17:42, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

I have added some content boxes to duplicate the left menu. Tested in Opera, FF and IE. Should play very nicely with other browsers, too. Obeys the users' font sizes. Has two boxes per row in 1024x768. Feel free to improve, suggest, or even revert! :) --[[User:Catalyst2950|Catalyst2950]] 13:49, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

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Nice! (I see you implemented them)--[[User:GM-Lau|GM-Lau]] 13:50, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

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You did well! --[[User:Ukelele|ukelele]] 13:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
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We might have a layout box for HT-World. Links to countries, CHPP's, HM and such. What do you think?--[[User:Coriolis|Coriolis]] 23:10, June 21, 2006 (UTC)

==== Width of the layout boxes ====

Introduction and content (the layout boxes) each gets the 50% of the space (1024x768). I think it will be better with only one columns for the ''content'' and a small width for them and, may be, only show the Hattrick and Miscellaneous boxes.
--[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 21:42, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

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This is (was, actually), a copy of the [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] article to ease up navigation, because the menu on the left is cluttered, and [[User:Htsysop]] should change it. If we remove the Introduction, which I think we should, then we can discuss on how to format those boxes better and what to include in them. --[[User:Catalyst2950|Catalyst2950]] 22:27, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

== HattrickWikiProjects and guidelines ==

We should create some kind of a [[Rules of Conduct]] and [[Editing Guidelines]] articles and link them directly in the [[Main Page]] article, preferably marked with a distinct background color. --[[User:Catalyst2950|Catalyst2950]] 06:50, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

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The problem with written rules is that people who read them usually had no intention in breaking them in the first place, and vice versa.
--[[User:Jablan|jablan]]

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I also think that we should set some guidelines and make an effort on how to coordinate the writing efforts. A good way to deal with this would be the creation of [[Hattrick:HattrickWikiProjects]] - so we can divide and organize the work better. A Project can be created with the goals of deciding and enforcing some Rules of Conduct, Guidelines, etc. All those specific issues would be discussed on the Project pages, instead of using the Hattrick forums or looking for information in a lot of places.

To demonstrate the use, I have created the [[Hattrick:HattrickWikiProjects]] main page, along with a sample project: [[Hattrick:HattrickWikiProject_Templates]]. If you think this idea could be useful, please go ahead and improve it :) --[[User:Duno7|duno7]] 19:50, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
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I've created a guideline for [[Hattrick:Naming_conventions|name conventions]], most of it based on Wikipedia.org. What do you think about it? --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 13:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
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Nice document, I think we could take that as an initial reference. Why not creating a project that deal with the Guidelines setting? It looks like a big task, and it could have sub-projects and such. In my opinion, we should first discuss some issues, and then release some documents: a couple of "compressed guides for readers/writers/etc", and a set of articles that explain each issue or guideline in detail. And I guess the sooner the better! (this is growing fast!) --[[User:Duno7|duno7]] 18:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
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Is there any chance that the < math > functions can be activated? Currently they are throwing an error. I'd like to incorporate more forumlas on some of the pages.
--[[User:Psymon|psymon]] 21:03, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

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I've tried to make the page look a little cleaner, and quite like the division into four sections. The 'Miscellaneous' box has been moved to [[Start Here!]].

The actual format looks pretty bad though. Can anyone make it prettier? [[User:Dancing rob|Dancing rob]] 22:47, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

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As far as I'm concerned, the Introduction has to go away. Then we create only TWO boxes - one for the featured article (we need that!), one for things that are currently in other boxes. Maybe add some quick categories on top of the page. What I did a couple of days ago was to copy the Sidebar so hopefully Htsysop would clean it up - it hasn't happened, though. I suggest a complete restructuring of this page tomorrow. --[[User:Catalyst2950|Catalyst2950]] 22:54, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
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The addition of links to useful categories is a really nice idea - I suggest we have at least links to the user clubs and probably countries / regions / something like that. Regarding the countries issue, are the non-category pages really necessary? Please check [[:Category:Geography]], the articles listed there are not really very useful, should we redirect them to the Category articles instead? --[[User:Duno7|duno7]] 13:31, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

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Any news on sorting the sidebar problem yet? [[User:Dancing rob|Dancing rob]] 22:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

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Nope :( --[[User:Catalyst2950|Catalyst2950]] 22:30, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

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''I suggest we have at least links to the user clubs and probably countries / regions / something like that.''
<- Maybe inside a new table in the contents called "The Community" ?
It could also include a link to "Articles".

== Wiki logon contest ==

I want to add this at the top of the front page:

<div style="border-width: 4px; border-color:red; border-style: groove; background-color: #efdfdf;
margin-left:12em; margin-right:12em; text-align: center">
==Hattrick wiki logo content==
* Do you want a new logo for our wiki?
* Do you want to make the new HT-wiki logo?
* Do yo want to see them?
'''''Go to [[Hattrick wiki logo contest]] and participate!!!'''''
</div>

<pre><nowiki>
<div style="border-width: 4px; border-color:red; border-style: groove; background-color: #efdfdf;
margin-left:12em; margin-right:12em; text-align: center">
==Hattrick wiki logo content==
* Do you want a new logo for our wiki?
* Do you want to make the new HT-wiki logo?
* Do yo want to see them?
'''''Go to [[Hattrick wiki logo contest]] and participate!!!'''''
</div>
</nowiki></pre>

Opinions?

--[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 11:27, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

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I changed it to conte'''s'''t

== Getting started (a guide for wiki beginners) ==

I created the [[Getting started]] page... perhaps it should be put on the main page somehow? Not sure how myself though. --[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 02:20:57, 2005-12-08 (UTC)
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I put a link on the [[Start here!]] page. --[[User:Septimusjm|septimusjm]] 07:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

Is there a user who has the power block IPs and whatnot? Because I have a feeling the main page is going to get vandalized a lot. --[[User:Septimusjm|septimusjm]] 16:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, we really need IP blocking! I think I have restored all pages now... --[[User:194.105.120.80|194.105.120.80]] 16:18, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

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Yeah, I restored the guy who most recently vandalized the main page: Bearsden FC. Odd that his IP here and on Hattrick completely matched...
Someone had the power to block IP, it's just a matter of locating that person. One of the HT's probably.

--[[User:Septimusjm|septimusjm]] 16:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
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HTSysop has the power to block IPs, and I'm pretty sure I've seen them ban someone before in the recent changes. I'm assuming eventually there will be Wiki admins (perhaps GMs) who will have banning power, but right now it's just HTSysop (maybe a slightly different name, I forget). --[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 23:03:24, 2005-12-08 (UTC)

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Yes, but how do you contact HTSysop? There's a page, but it appears to be unused. --[[User:Septimusjm|septimusjm]] 03:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
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Well, whenever you add a message to the person's talk page, not only will it appear when they login, but also it will send them an email. I'm assuming whoever Htsysop is (probably one of the HTs) will check his email and see that they have a message. So I'd say that's the best way to contact them, by adding a message to [[User Talk:Htsysop|this page]].
--[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 00:34:37, 2005-12-23 (UTC)

== Turkish Main page ==

There are many Turkish "Hattrick" user. So I think wiki must have a Turkish Main Page. All Turkish user will be happy if you do it.

Good Days..

There are many other users from all over the world (and several countries have many more users than Turkey). Why should HT Wiki have a Turkish main page and not in in other languages? I say no. Keep HT WIki in English. --[[User:Assyrian Master|Assyrian Master]] 16:24:59, 2006-05-10 (UTC)

: I dont need turkish, (i dont even understand it), but has anybody once thinked about, to add other languages to wiki.hattrick.org. The main langage will always stay english, but there are many users, who doesnt understand much english. and so it would be great to offer the sites in other languages. My question is simple, will there once be some more languages than english, or never? [[User:Allsports|Allsports]] 16:52, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

::If something like this is to happen, I think the appropriate way would be something like what wikipedia does, with separate domains for different languages. That's something to take up with the HTs. Personally, I'm not opposed to it -- it can't hurt, and I'm not going to be the one who has to support it. :) --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 18:11, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

== Random page ==

What's wrong with the random page option? It keeps trowing up the same page over and over. It used to work fine. --[[User:Ukelele|ukelele]] 11:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

:It looks like some sort of caching. If you hit "Random Page" five or six times, it will eventually switch to a new page. I don't know if this issue is wiki-side or user-side or a combination of the two. --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 18:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

== Suggestion: Hattricks Book of Records ==

How about creating a new division of this wiki dedicated to records? Much of the discussion on the Hattrick forums are about records; who got the most stars in one game, who is the oldest player/trainer, who got the most highest number of consecutive wins/losses, etc, etc. I suggest Guinness Book of Records-like Hattricks Book of Records. Would like some input one this, before I begin constructing something, though. Your comments?

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In case you haven't noticed, not a lot's getting done based on the "discussion" here. And what is getting done is b/c interested users go out and create it...and then slightly less interested users come along and improve it. So if records is your thing, I suggest you get it started. I'd base it off a category page, something along the lines of: category:hattrick records. That way all the variations can fall under the category page with a simple category tag. --[[User:Septimusjm|septimusjm]] 16:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I have noticed... :-) I might give it a shot when I have time. [[User:KrazyKat|KrazyKat]] 16:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== wiki favicon ==

A favicon (the same as in www.hattrick.org) should be referenced in the code. I know no one but the HT's have the power to do it, but I think no one has mentioned this before. -- [[User:Kiusap|Kiusap]] 12:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== English Only? ==

My understanding is that the Wiki would be English only. There are lots of reasons for this, not least is that the more languages used, the harder it is to verify/edit information. Just browsing around, there appear to be quite a few non-English pages. Recently a lot of pages in Russian. Is the Wiki English only? If so, what needs to be done about the non-English pages? --[[User:Septimusjm|septimusjm]] 17:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

: This wiki is meant to be english only, but as the russian community clearly wants its own Wiki they are constructing it with a "silent" approval from us mods. They keep to their own folder ([[Ru/]]) and don't try to mix the russian pages with the english pages, and thus there is no reason to interfere with this. When it grows big enough I hope that the HT-staff take steps to establish a new subdomain for the russian Wiki. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 19:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean when you write "don't try to mix the russian pages with the english pages" ? Does it mean that we can't keep a link with an English page until we will have translated this page ?

: I think that the links from other wiki's to English wiki is ok for as long as the article linked to is not translated to the other language. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)