User talk:Jhattara

2007-04-12T13:54:14Z

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Man we have a serieus saboteur at work. I see you have reverted quite some pages. He seems to change ip all the time. What is it that he inserts in those pages anyway? I can't see a thing untill I click edit, then a whole list of links and stuff appears. The poor bastard can't feed his children he claims. Do you know what it is?

== Wiki admins ==

Please take a look at [[Hattrick:Administrators]]. --[[User:Ukelele|ukelele]] 14:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

== Flag templates ==

Hi; I've changed the names of the [[Hattrick:Flag templates]] and also i've moved the content of "Hattrick:National team templates" to that page. I'm changing the links to get the "National team templates" deletable, but there is one under your user space ([[Special:Whatlinkshere?target=Hattrick:National_team_templates]]). --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 16:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, I know that I have to change the pages using them. I expect to change them in the next days. --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 06:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

== Delete template ==

Sorry about the discrepancy... it should be <nowiki>{{Delete|11-2006}}</nowiki>. You may want to have a look at [[HT:ARD]] (which I just wrote) and add your input as well.
-[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 08:23:52, 2006-11-06 (UTC)

== Soccer/Football ==

I didn't make the reverts because I think soccer should be used. To me, the terms are used interchangably on a global scale. I respect those in Sweden (what we call their country in America) by calling it by the local name of Sverige when I'm talking on a global forum, and I think that others should do the same. If an American writes soccer, especially when talking about an American who plays soccer (the Mod-Lytic page), then he should be able to without someone going through and replacing every instance of soccer with football. That is why I went through and made the reverts, because the original author chose to use soccer. [[User:Kc-jake|-- Jake]] 19:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

He's got a point Jhattara. Europeans prefer to use the term football because in Europe football means one thing & one thing only, however we have to accept that to users in the US (& in other areas of the world where there are competing codes of football) then soccer may be a more culturally pertinent term of reference.It serves to differentiate it from other forms of football such as gridiron (or aussie rules).

--[[User:FFHF-Escafeld|FFHF-Escafeld]] 22:43, November 29, 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to clarify that I don't intend to set a standard where every reference to the sport is changed to soccer or anything; I'm making the point that the original editor's terms should be kept. If the editor makes up a word or says the wrong thing (can instead of can't, should instead of will, etc) then it can be changed. But I think that if the original editor writes soccer, it should be left as soccer; and if the original editor writes football, it should be left as football. Or futbol. Or footie. [[User:Kc-jake|-- Jake]] 16:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

== Translating ==

I come from Hong Kong, and I would like to translate the menu and some article(such as rules and newbie tips...) into Chinese, coz there is a trend of increasing in the number of users in Hattrick China, Hong Kong and Chinese Taipei.

Please tell me what I should do.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 23:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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May I use hk, cn or tw as the link, cause I mainly make this for Hong Kong people.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 02:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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May I ask if I can use [[zh-yue]], there is also [http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki zh-yue] in Wikipedia

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 23:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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Zh is normal Chinese, mostly used in [[China]] and [[Chinese Taipei]].

Zh-yue is Chinese also but in Cantonese, mostly used in [[Hong Kong]] and [[Guangdong ]](One of the China regions)

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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They are same language, but difference dialect, so difference in text(sometimes are the same).

Not just like 5-5-0, 5-5-0 is an article

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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For the tag, I will ad afer I have finish all the main articles.

"I see no reason for you not to use also Zh-yue/ folder." My english understanding is not really good, I want to ask the sentence above, do you mean that I can use [[Zh-yue/]] folder??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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Just after I read your message, I felt happy, but 10minutes later, I found that there is only me editing Chinese Wiki, if I have to translate two languages, I will waste lots of time!!

Maybe I will do the [[Zh-yue/]] after I have find some helper.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

== 1st Division League ==

May I change it back to [[1st Division League (Hong Kong)]]??

Cause 1st Division League is a common name for the top series in quite a few of country!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

--Re: Re: 1st Division League

I thought it is the default name, then it is OK now!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Zh/Flag/ templates ==

I blanked them is just because there is no Chinese name for the country in Hattrick, I just want to change it back to English.

I am sorry.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, then I will now start to create more Chinese HT country page with [[User:Aurandon]]

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I found the golden boot on the team page of the Hattrick Masters winner Hapoel Nahariya (340770).

[[User:Susande|Susande]] 17:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

== canton is not a ht-country ==

The title show what you write as comment on your edit in my user page.

But I got to show you something: http://wiki.hattrick.org/Team

Go to the bottom, and try the link of Hong Kong, it is already Cantonese Clubs as default.

Try other country's link, they all use their national language as prefix of their link, and Hong Kong people use contonese, so the default is right, so please don't change it back to Hong Kong clubs.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: canton is not a ht-country

This time I got to explain the history of Hong Kong...

Hong Kong is part of China, Hong Kong people mostly come from the [[Guangdong]] province, in English, we call this province "Canton", the people from "Canton" is Cantonese!!

Therefore, Hong Kong people is also Cantonese, there is no word which describe Hong Kong, we don't use Chinese or we will make confusion, therefore, Cantonese is the only choice.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Re: canton is not a ht-country

I was wasting time to debate with you, cause I am wrong and you are right.

Then who is the first one to put Cantonese in the Hong Kong Team Category??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== Match Report Template ==

[[Template:Match_report_new]]

There is one [[Team:DDT_Mathematics_United/League/Season_15/Round_5|Exmaple]] of my match.

I create this template, and partly copy from [[Template:Match_report]]

I just want to ask if this can be used in the final of the World Cup, U-20 World Cup and Hattrick Master finals, I think it will be good eh.

p.s. Now the possession is still doen't look like the one in Hattrick, but similar.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 02:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Match Report Template

That's why I said World Cup, U-20 World Cup and Hattrick Master finals, just a few matches.

World Cup: 8Finals

U-20 World Cup: 8Finals

Hattrick Masters: 4Finals

Total: 20Finals

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 11:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

==Re: Show preview==

There is aa problem which I am going to show you:

At first, I have added(or delete) something on/from a page, then I save it.(For safety reason, won't lose my edits)

And then, I have to continue adding, after I save it, I found that the page only show my seconds edit, but the first edit are disappear.

Then, I added the stuff which I have added in the first edit, after saving, I show my 3rd edit(Also the first), but the 2nd edit lost.

That's why I have to edit so many time, I still don't know why it was happening...
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 11:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

==Regions of the Netherlands==
Hi Jhattara! why did you deleted the words '''"Dutch overseas regions"''' in the [[Template:Regions Nederland]]? It was more clearly/specific than the current version, and after all, they are Dutch overseas regions. Greetings! [[User:Mavuba|Mavuba]] 22:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==
Hi! I notice their is a lot of vandalism on this wiki. I think it should be a good idea to insert a captcha, like on HT clubhouses. Or instead of that captcha only let registered users edit the wiki. I don't think the last option is a good option, but it's better then this vandalism.
I'm writing this in your talk because I see you delete spam or reverse vandalised pages a lot.
Just my 2 cents. --[[User:Rob184|Rob184]] 23:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== Complaining on [[User:Aurandon]] ==

[[Zh/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%86_U-20_%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%9D%AF#.E6.B1.BA.E8.B3.BD|Chinese version of U-20 World Cup I - Final]]

[[User:Aurandon|Aurandon]] added his own comments in chinese:
雙方上演了一場實力懸殊的決賽，令5萬多名現場觀眾有點失望。瑞典憑高達7成的控球時間，全場控制大局，以狂風掃落葉
的姿態，狂數大洋洲7球，當中當時效力 Gunners AFC 的 Andreas Edvinsson 及己退休的 Ove Selén 均梅開二度，
協助瑞典取得首屆 U-20 世界杯冠軍。以U-20國家隊來說，中場評級達神秘莫測實在極為難得。

I don't think it is objective, please tell him to put it to the [[Talk:Zh/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%86_U-20_%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%9D%AF?action=edit|Talk of U-20 World Cup I (Chinese version)]]

A little add, May you assign me to be the moderator of Chinese Hattrick Wiki?

I asked this because the 5 [[:Category:Administrators|Admin]] don't know chinese(I think they don't, including you)

And you won't understand what the people add on the page, but I do.

I will reported my moderate to you every time I think I have to.

I know this is sudden and you will be 99.99% rejecting me, but I think a moderator for each language is needed, even in the Russian Hattrick Wiki need one.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: Complaining on [[User:Aurandon]]
The text:
<div style="border: 1px dotted #BCB888; color: black; background-color: #FFF8DF; padding: 1em; margin: 0.5em;" id="disambig"> A match with '''differnce level of teams''', which make more than 50000 audience '''disappointed'''. Sweeden had 70% of the possession, controlling the whole match, bombed 7 goals to Oceania in a '''crazy way'''{{ref|ref-1}}, in the match, both Andreas Edvinsson from Gunners AFC and Ove Selén who is retired scored two goals, helping Sweeden get the U-20 World Cup I. In U-20 teams, a midfield of supernatural is '''difficult to see'''.</div>

Bold words are the words which I think it is not objective.

Note:
#{{note|ref-1}} crazy way (a chinese phrase, which mean a stronger stuff beaten up a weaker stuff very crazy, I translated it to carzy way)

I can't see [[User:Tjecken]]'s user page or talk page have anything, should I talk to him in Hattrick game message??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Great!! Thank you...

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 08:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

== Unofficial National Champoionship ==

As I want to do this article for Hong Kong.

But I got a few question to ask.

1. Hong Kong was a region in China before it defined as a country in Hattrick World.

Then should I pick the match in China of the first two Hong Kong human player meet

or

First match since Hong Kong is defined as a country in HT World??

2. If the answer for last question is ''First match since Hong Kong is defined as a country in HT World''

Then which match should I choose from if there are more than one matches playing at the same time??

The smaller MatchId??

Reference: http://www.hattrick.org/Common/leagueFixtures.asp?LeagueLevelunitID=13508&Season=1

(Just add the number after ''www'' same as the one that you see after you have logged in.)

P.S. Have you contact Aurandon about the personal comments on the U-20 World Cup page??

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

That's good, because HK best ever team is also one of the team in that match!!

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Re:Ru/Auto-promotion ==
Actually, all Russian editors can't find exact translation of these two terms. Some Russian HT users just use the russian spelling of english terms like Автопромоушен(Auto-promotion) and Скиллтрейдинг(for Skill trading). So it was decided not to translate these terms since the exact translation would be found. --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

What for? I think it's more correct to leave them in English, as now --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to find the correct version for all articles with English names. I hope, I'll do it today. --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
BTW, we are not planning to translate names of Federations, for example, so, there will be two (or even more) alphabets anyway! --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

That's me again :) Some terms like Clubhouse aren't translated to Russian even in HT. What do you prefer: to translate them in wiki anyway, or to leave their English name? --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

So, you see, it's impossible to get rid of English terms in Russian wiki :( --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Re:Empty pages ==
I am sorry that I don't know the code(template) for deleted page.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Category: Administrators ==
Ahh, I must have had a brain lapse while going through those! Sorry about that --[[User:SassineFC|SassineFC]] 14:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

==Categories==
As you have noticed i've been working on categorizing all the current pages and am finally finished! I've added a category (Category:Miscellaneous) that contains a handful of articles that I couldn't determine an appropriate category but may not be candidates for deletion (a big may).--[[User:SassineFC|SassineFC]] 19:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Russian administrator? ==
Will there be any Russian administrator in wiki? %) --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 08:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

--I asked HT-Tjecken in game message two weeks ago, I told him that I am the one who mainly edit Chinese page, and I want to be the Chinese HT Wiki moderator. Around 7-9days later, he replyied and now I am one of the administrators, I think you may ask HT-Tjecken in game message as well. [[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

==Protecting page==
I want to protect my team page in Hattrick Wiki: [[Team:DDT Mathematics United]]

Will that violate the rule of Administrator?? Cause I don't want the other to edit my team page.

[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Alright then!![[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

== The Hebrew Wiki ==

There is also hattrick wiki in Hebrew named: "Wikattrick", here-

http://he.hattrick.wikia.com

עברית (Hebrew)

I'll be glad if you will add it to the main page - thanks!

Omer

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