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Talk:Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-28T16:28:46Z

24.208.184.30:

I don't intend to enter an edit war here. Such things are pointless. I ask other members of the community to read the section on Hattrick.Forenmos in [[Bulgarian Forum]] and express their opinion on the text's neutrality. But I WILL act if the page becomes disinformative. For now it's simply biased and ugly. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 22:22, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

There is no section on Hattrick.Forenmos. If you want somebody to pay attention to you, learn the spelling. And yes, the section is ugly because somebody put ugly formatting there; it used to be biased, too. If I manage to find out how wiki formatting works, I'll fix the ugliness (and stop editing in order to comment).

: LOL, nice laughs tonight ;]

: Why do I remember the forum was created as a result of "The" argument between Feanor and Emilius? Wasn't it aimed at being an alternative to his despotic reign?

: Perhaps I've just forgotten :) [[user:ljoljoto|ljoljoto]]

: The spelling is ''Formenos'', sure. Hope nobody apart from you gets confused so easily. I didn't mean that the formatting is ugly. The phrases are. I wouldn't attack anyone on grammar or formatting grounds. It wouldn't be fair. I claim that the text is biased now. That's why I will allow other people to see and discuss it before I edit. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 22:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

ljoljoto - that is not true. I left bg-liga for the above reason, but formenos was created for the reasons I put on the page (after ckapa6upa convinced me to do that). There is an 8-month gap between the two events. Perhaps somebody should create an alternative history of the Bulgarian HT society that features more interesting things than "the cup was won by such and so."
cryout - if you don't like the facts as they are, find some way to disprove them. Everything written on the page as of now is true. Perhaps the words are a little bit harsh for a BG-Liga user, but true nonetheless. And be warned - as always, if you write something opinionated, I will find and correct that.
: I do like the facts. But I try to keep them unbiased on a wiki site. I am not a user of BG-Liga. I haven't been for a long time now. Then why should I care? The truth is that I don't care about BG-Liga; all I care about is truth. I have no idea who and how won the cup. I would like to hear how this was done (use my talk page or write me an HT). I would really love to learn how to win a Hattrick cup (assuming you are talking about a way which doesn't involve being the best). --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 22:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

My mistake then, sorry :) --[[User:ljoljoto|ljoljoto]] 22:56, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

== Интервюта и резултати (Interviews and Results) ==

Придържам се към българския, защото фактът, че тук се пишат такива лъжи е преди всичко проблем на България, за нашето представяне пред НТ-света. И така, помолих няколко човека да прочетат написаното на тази страница. Други бяха изразили мнението си вече в БГ-НТ.org-конференцията (за потвърждение: моля, погледнете темата за Уикито в българската конференция и също разпитайте хората в #hattrick и #hattrick.formenos). Някои хора бяха бесни от написаното от IP 212.25.63.7 (вероятно Feanor), но повечето просто искрено се изсмяха на опититите му да изопъчи истината. Ще използвам един цитат от конференцията, написан по темата именно за тази страница: ''"Неслучайно доста хора вече не щем и да помиришем '''твоя''' форум! Можеш да "скачаш" в негова защита до безкрай, но фактите така или иначе няма да промениш!"'' (4473205.40 в конференцията с автор бивш модератор на Форменос). Ето и един риторичен въпрос от друг потребител, който е ибрал този начин да изрази своето огорчение: ''"А какво е това Форменос?"'' (4473205.41). И един въпрос от #hattrick.formenos ''"!21:52! APHID: Hattrick.Formenos was created as a protest against the mass cheating of the users of BG-Liga !21:52! RedDRagon: haha !21:52! RedDRagon: ka e taq glupost"''. В заключение идва молбата към Феанор от трикратния носител на купата на България: ''"Стига с тез лъжи де. Стига с недоказани обвинения!"'' (4473205.50). Какъв е резултатът от цялата тази неравна борба (Феанор срещу света). Ами, резултатът е положителен: ДРМалинов не се оказа прав в мнението си, че Фенор не признва грешките си: на 28.11.2005 в 05.03 това се промени: ''"Ei sega se usetih zashto ripate tolkova. Izrazil sym se nepravilno, zashtoto za men uredeni machove sa absoluten cheat. Popravih go na "as a protest against the practice of match fixing among the users of BG-Liga."'' Сега, след кулминацията на тази човешка драма, остава да видим дали Феанор ще допоправи собтвените си обвинения по страниците на Уикито. Нека бъдем хора и да му пожелаем '''Успех'''! --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 12:56, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Cryout, lyjite gi pishesh ti. Dopusnah greshka, opravih q. Stranicata v momenta e tochno vyv vida v koito trqbva da byde. Ako ti stiska, napishi otdelna statiq za razcepvaneto, da vidish mneniq. Zashto ne napishesh avtorite na gornite citati osven tova (kato se izkluchat aphid i reddragon)? Moje bi zashtoto vsichkite sa ot vashata grupichka?
Why don't you write in English? Are you afraid that some unbiased foreigner will read the history?
By the way, my ip address is 24.208.184.30.

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-28T16:24:02Z

24.208.184.30:

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official languages are Bulgarian and English.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, and its forum used to be the only Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. The forum was the place that made the HTs introduce Bulgaria as an HT-country. Later it was used to coordinate modifications in the list of Buglarian names in the game and to coordinate the translation of Hattrick.org in Bulgarian language.

The site lost its founder and some of its founding members because of cheating in HT in February 2005. This, and the fact that the site was hacked in the Spring of 2005, became the reason for the forum to gradually lose its user base. Nevertheless, it is still up and running and keeps a read-only archive of some of the most interesting discussions in its history.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created for two reasons: as a place for Bulgarian newbies to receive the help they very much needed at the time, and as a protest against the practice of match fixing among the users of BG-Liga. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven".

Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.
Hattrick.Formenos also features the official forums of [http://www.binis.net/BulHM/ Agent X] and [http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net]

==IRC==
There are a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria

Note that ''#hattrick.formenos'' is also also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos. It is difficult to say which channel a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

==HT-BG==
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG] is a Bulgarian Hattrick Portal which was designed to become a link between the different Bulgarian forums and useful offsite sources of information, thus providing the users a more convenient tool for finding whatever Hattrick related information or community they seek.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgaria

2005-11-28T15:22:44Z

24.208.184.30: /* Important Dates */

{{Infobox_Country|
full_local_name = България |
name_(english) = Bulgaria |
image_flag = bulgaria.png |
image_coat = Coa-bulgaria.gif |
image_map = locationbulgaria.png |
zone = [[Eastern Europe]] |
link_to_map = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=bulgaria&t=h&hl=en |
continent = [[Europe]] |
season = 11 |
number_of_teams = 10920 (Active 4202) |
level_of_series = 6 |
number_of_regions = 27 |
top_serie_name = [[Vissha Liga]] |
national_trainer = [[Rage Lord]] |
u20_coach = [[Osmi Basein|Chukcha]] |
currency = Lev |
parity = Lev = 0.5€ |
htt_offset= +1 |
footnotes= |
}}

Bulgaria was given birth as an HT-country in November 2002. There are currently more than 4000 users in the Bulgarian leagues.

==History==
The history of HT-Bulgaria started around 2001 with more users from Bulgaria deciding to enter the game in different leagues around the world. The Bulgarian league system was created in November 2002. Later, in the spring of 2004 the website would be translated in Bulgarian, which attracts many more users.

===Important Dates===
* Summer of 2002 -- [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Lig@] is created
* 29.11.2002 at 12.12 -- [[Red--Stars]] (117071) became the first team to join the Bulgarian leagues.
* 03.12.2002 -- The first game ever to be played was a friendly match between [[Red-Stars]] and [[Panonia]] (then Pononia). The score was a smashing 0-8 for the away team. The first goal was scored in the game's first minute by [[Marin Kostov]].
* 05.02.2003 -- First official trophy won in Bulgaria - for [[Levski 1914]] with owner Black_Jack
* 04.07.2003 -- The frst champion (human user) is AC Slavi de Furore, owned by Slavi Manalov. In this way the team also completes the only double in the history of Bulgaria, after having won the cup several weeks before
* 21.02.2003 -- First win for a national team in a friendly against Taiwan by 4 - 1
* 14.05.2004 -- The U-20 team reaches the [[World Cup]] and wins the first official match for a national team on 07.05.2004 against U-20 Singapore by 2 - 1
* 24.05.2004 -- Hattrick.org presents the website's translation in Bulgarian language. The first LA is Scorcher
* 04.06.2004 -- [[Adron]], owned by Mittko, completes his hattrick of three comnsequtive titles from the [[Vissha Liga]]
* August 2004 -- [http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos], the most popular Bulgarian Hattrick forum nowadays, is created.
* 18.08.2004 -- Mitko69 becomes the first Bulgarian GM
* 05.01.2005 - [[Yellow squad]], owned by DRMalinov, completes a hattrick of national cups (seasons 4, 6 and 8)
* February 2005 -- Some of the topmost Bulgarian teams are shut down for cheating. They include the then national champion [[zumbul_bg]] and the founder of BG-Liga.
* 9.03.2005 -- The portal website [http://www.ht-bg.net HT-BG.net] becomes active

==Teams==
The teams currently in Bulgaria's Vissha liga are: [[CSKA_]], [[Ohliuv Pancharevo]], [[Maritza 1921]], [[Plovdiv United]], [[Ulux]], [[Plovdiv Ghosts]], [[Adron]] and [[Osmi Basein]].

==See also==
[[Bulgarian Club]]s;
[[Bulgarian Publication]]s;
[[Bulgarian Unofficial Champion]]

==External Links==
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgaria Bulgaria on Wikipedia.org]
*[http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F Bulgaria on the Bulgarian Wikipedia]
*[http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA Article on Hattrick.org on the Bulgarian Wikipedia]

[[category:Countries]]
[[category:Eastern Europe]]
[[category:Bulgaria]]
[[category:Bulgarian Magazine]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-28T15:21:37Z

24.208.184.30: /* BG-Liga */

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-28T15:19:03Z

24.208.184.30: /* Hattrick.Formenos */

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official languages are Bulgarian and English.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, and its forum used to be the only Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. The forum was the place that made the HTs introduce Bulgaria as an HT-country. Later on it was used to coordinate modifications in the list of Buglarian names in the game and to coordinate the translation of Hattrick.org in Bulgarian language. AMong its popular features today are the sections for helping new users and for betting on HT-matches.

The site lost its founder and some of its founding members because of some form of cheating in HT in February 2005. This, and the fact that the site was hacked in the Spring of 2005, became the reason for the forum to gradually lose its user base. Nevertheless, it is still up and running and keeps a ''read-only'' [http://bg-liga.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=14&sid=8e15424e0bd5bf8eca82c5da161d53de archive] of some of the most interesting discussions in its history.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created for two reasons: as a place for Bulgarian newbies to receive the help they very much needed at the time, and as a protest against the practice of match fixing among the users of BG-Liga. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven".

Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.
Hattrick.Formenos also features the official forums of [http://www.binis.net/BulHM/ Agent X] and [http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net]

==IRC==
There are a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria

Note that ''#hattrick.formenos'' is also also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos. It is difficult to say which channel a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

==HT-BG==
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG] is a Bulgarian Hattrick Portal which was designed to become a link between the different Bulgarian forums and useful offsite sources of information, thus providing the users a more convenient tool for finding whatever Hattrick related information or community they seek.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-28T04:02:51Z

24.208.184.30: /* Hattrick.Formenos */

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official languages are Bulgarian and English.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, and its forum used to be the only Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. The forum was the place that made the HTs introduce Bulgaria as an HT-country. Later it was used to coordinate modifications in the list of Buglarian names in the game and to coordinate the translation of Hattrick.org in Bulgarian language.

The site lost its founder and some of its founding members because of cheating in HT in February 2005. This, and the fact that the site was hacked in the Spring of 2005, became the reason for the forum to gradually lose its user base. Nevertheless, it is still up and running and keeps a locked [http://bg-liga.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=14&sid=8e15424e0bd5bf8eca82c5da161d53de archive] of some of the most interesting discussions in its history.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created for two reasons: as a place for Bulgarian newbies to receive the help they very much needed at the time, and as a protest against the practice of match fixing among the users of BG-Liga. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.
Hattrick.Formenos also features the official forums of [http://www.binis.net/BulHM/ Agent X] and [http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net]

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria

Note that ''#hattrick.formenos'' is also also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos. It is difficult to say which channel a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

==HT-BG==
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG] is a Bulgarian Hattrick Portal which was designed to become a link between the different Bulgarian forums and useful offsite sources of information, thus providing the users a more convenient tool for finding whatever Hattrick related information or community they seek.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-28T04:00:33Z

24.208.184.30: /* Hattrick.Formenos */

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official languages are Bulgarian and English.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, and its forum used to be the only Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. The forum was the place that made the HTs introduce Bulgaria as an HT-country. Later it was used to coordinate modifications in the list of Buglarian names in the game and to coordinate the translation of Hattrick.org in Bulgarian language.

The site lost its founder and some of its founding members because of cheating in HT in February 2005. This, and the fact that the site was hacked in the Spring of 2005, became the reason for the forum to gradually lose its user base. Nevertheless, it is still up and running and keeps a locked [http://bg-liga.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=14&sid=8e15424e0bd5bf8eca82c5da161d53de archive] of some of the most interesting discussions in its history.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created for two reasons: as a place for Bulgarian newbies to receive the help they very much needed at the time, and as a protest against the many games fixed by the users of BG-Liga. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.
Hattrick.Formenos also features the official forums of [http://www.binis.net/BulHM/ Agent X] and [http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net]

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria

Note that ''#hattrick.formenos'' is also also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos. It is difficult to say which channel a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

==HT-BG==
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG] is a Bulgarian Hattrick Portal which was designed to become a link between the different Bulgarian forums and useful offsite sources of information, thus providing the users a more convenient tool for finding whatever Hattrick related information or community they seek.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-27T22:42:10Z

24.208.184.30: /* BG-Liga */

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official languages are Bulgarian and English.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, and its forum used to be the only Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. The forum was the place that made the HTs introduce Bulgaria as an HT-country. Later it was used to coordinate modifications in the list of Buglarian names in the game and to coordinate the translation of Hattrick.org in Bulgarian language.

The site lost its founder and some of its founding members because of cheating in HT in February 2005. This, and the fact that the site was hacked in the Spring of 2005, became the reason for the forum to gradually lose its user base. Nevertheless, it is still up and running and keeps a locked [http://bg-liga.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=14&sid=8e15424e0bd5bf8eca82c5da161d53de archive] of some of the most interesting discussions in its history.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created for two reasons: as a protest against the mass cheating of the users of BG-Liga, and as a place for Bulgarian newbies to receive the help they very much needed at the time. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.
Hattrick.Formenos also features the official forums of [http://www.binis.net/BulHM/ Agent X] and [http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net]

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria

Note that ''#hattrick.formenos'' is also also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos. It is difficult to say which channel a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

==HT-BG==
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG] is a Bulgarian Hattrick Portal which was designed to become a link between the different Bulgarian forums and useful offsite sources of information, thus providing the users a more convenient tool for finding whatever Hattrick related information or community they seek.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Talk:Bulgaria

2005-11-25T23:20:24Z

24.208.184.30:

моля, без вандализъм! зачитайте добрия дух на едно уики. ако имате мнение, напишете статия за темата на спора и представете двете гледни точки. ::: in English: if you have an opinion, please, don't express it by altering other people's complete edits. as long as the information in the article is neutral and well formed, leave it as it is and write another article about the argument you want to discuss and the two sides in it, including yours. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 21:37, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

You'd do best to do the same as opposed to presenting fiction as facts and deleting facts because you do not like them. Besides, learn English grammar and spelling.
Feanor (trying, as always, to backtrack cryout and correct his intentional errors)
: If there are grammatical or factual errors, sorry to the community. If I have used double spelling and am now excusing myself for this, sorry to myself. Then, I am really trying to clarify the facts. I did leave a sentence for which it is dubious how much it relates to real world events just, because I am willing to present both sides of an argument. Hope you will learn to discern between facts and your own opinion. Until then, I will be making the only intentional mistake: to discuss facts when I can see that the other is not ready to listen. P.S. ако ще отправяме напдаки, нека поне се придържаме към българския и да не грозим нещо толкова готино като уики. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 22:15, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Ne otpravqm nikakvi napadki, a za poreden pyt ti opravqm prostotiite. Napravo ti se chudq kak ne si otishyl oshte v PR otdela na Microsoft. A ako ne ti haresva moeto mnenie po nqkoi vyprosi, mojesh da se otnesesh kym global GMs, koito go prevyrnaha vyv fakt predi vreme.
: Please, please, please, don't include irrelevant facts just to prove a point! A Wiki's articles are NOT the place to prove points. I will leave your last change uneditted for now. I ask the community to read through them and comment. An example is the fact that a founder of website (NB not hattrick.org) was kicked out of the game for alleged cheating. Few people care. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 22:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Having in mind that the sentence in question is a part of the description of the site in question, it is hardly irrelevant. Again, please check your spelling and grammar, these are supposed to be official documents. The noun is "advice" and the past tense of edit is "edited."
: Simply putting additional words to a definition does not make these words relevant. No matter who writes them. Grammer is grammer, neutrality is important. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 22:44, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

It is a very useful bit of information that you do not like. It is also absolutely in line with the purpose of a wiki. Neutrality is important, and hiding facts is as biased as making up facts. You are (were before my editing) guilty of both. Learn your grammer and spelling, it is a shame.
: Being taght by you what is a shame is unacceptable. Do not accuse me of being biased, because I am not. Do nt accuse my writing of being biased, because it is not. Do not attack my grammar, even when you have nothing else to say. And because I really want to see what other people think, I will stop the discussion for today. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 23:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Once again I realize it is useless to argue with an eloquent (but semi-literate) bigot who escapes to using phrases that are as grand as they are empty when challenged. I do have other things to say and I said them (despite your prophetic words, I admit), it is you who did not comment on them :)

Talk:Bulgaria

2005-11-25T22:55:32Z

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Talk:Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T22:46:51Z

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Talk:Bulgaria

2005-11-25T22:40:56Z

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Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T22:29:35Z

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The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official languages are Bulgarian and English.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, but its forum used to be by far the most active Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. After the site lost its founder and some other users because of cheating in HT in February 2005, and after the site was hacked later in the Spring of 2005, it gradually lost its user base.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created for two reasons: as a protest against the mass cheating of the users of BG-Liga, and as a place for Bulgarian newbies to receive the help they very much needed at the time. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.
Hattrick.Formenos also features the official forums of [http://www.binis.net/BulHM/ Agent X] and [http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net]

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria. It is also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos.

It is difficult to say which one a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

==HT-BG==
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG] is a Bulgarian Hattrick Portal which was designed to become a link between the different Bulgarian forums and useful offsite sources of information, thus providing the users a more convenient tool for finding whatever Hattrick related information or community they seek.

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Talk:Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T22:25:55Z

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Talk:Bulgaria

2005-11-25T22:18:21Z

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Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T22:15:02Z

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Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T22:13:19Z

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Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T22:03:58Z

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The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official language is Bulgarian.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, but its forum used to be by far the most active Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. After the site lost its founder and some other users because of cheating in HT in February 2005, and after the site was hacked later in the Spring of 2005, it gradually lost its user base.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created for two reasons: as a protest against the mass cheating of the users of BG-Liga, and as a place for Bulgarian newbies to receive the help they very much needed at the time. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria. It is also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos.

It is difficult to say which one a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Talk:Bulgaria

2005-11-25T22:00:29Z

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Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:57:19Z

24.208.184.30: /* IRC */

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official language is Bulgarian.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, but its forum used to be by far the most active Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. After the site lost its founder and some other users because of cheating in HT in February 2005, and after the site was hacked later in the Spring of 2005, it gradually lost its user base.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created as a protest against the mass cheating of the users of BG-Liga. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria. It is also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos.

It is difficult to say which one a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:55:38Z

24.208.184.30: /* IRC */

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official language is Bulgarian.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, but its forum used to be by far the most active Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. After the site lost its founder and some other users because of cheating in HT in February 2005, and after the site was hacked later in the Spring of 2005, it gradually lost its user base.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created as a protest against the mass cheating of the users of BG-Liga. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.''
* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria. It is also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos.''

It is difficult to say which one a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:54:08Z

24.208.184.30: /* IRC */

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official language is Bulgarian.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, but its forum used to be by far the most active Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. After the site lost its founder and some other users because of cheating in HT in February 2005, and after the site was hacked later in the Spring of 2005, it gradually lost its user base.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created as a protest against the mass cheating of the users of BG-Liga. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]].
Both chanels are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.
* ''#hattrick'' is the oldest and still popular
* ''#hattrick.formenos'' is an alternative set up after the expansion of Hattrick's fanbase in Bulgaria. It is also the official IRC channel of Hattrick.Formenos.
It is difficult to say which one a beginner is better to "hang in" to seek advise. The safest answer would be: check out both and you will definitely find helpful managers in each.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:48:53Z

24.208.184.30: /* BG-Liga */

The official '''Bulgarian forum''' can be found in Hattrick'org's Conference. The official language is Bulgarian.

==BG-Liga==
The first unofficial [[Bulgaria]]n forum is [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Liga], which started in the summer of 2002 - a few months before the Bulgarian league was created. The site has gone through several versions, but its forum used to be by far the most active Bulgarian place for discussing Hattrick.org. After the site lost its founder and some other users because of cheating in HT in February 2005, and after the site was hacked later in the Spring of 2005, it gradually lost its user base.

==Hattrick.Formenos==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] was created as a protest against the mass cheating of the users of BG-Liga. Some users of Hattrick.Formenos believe that: "After the other forum lost its founder and some of its most vocal members because their teams were locked for cheating, a point was proven". Nowadays (as of November 2005) Hattrick.Formenos is the most popular Bulgarian offsite Hattrick community.

==IRC==
There are at least a couple of Internet Relay Chat channels that serve [[Bulgarian users]]. They are ''#hattrick.formenos'' and ''#hattrick'' and are accessible through all servers that are part of the UniBG system, e.g. ''irc.telecoms.bg''.

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:43:23Z

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Bulgaria

2005-11-25T21:39:59Z

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{{Infobox_Country|
full_local_name = България |
name_(english) = Bulgaria |
image_flag = bulgaria.png |
image_coat = Coa_bulgaria.png |
image_map = locationbulgaria.png |
zone = [[Eastern Europe]] |
link_to_map = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=bulgaria&t=h&hl=en |
continent = [[Europe]] |
season = 11 |
number_of_teams = 10920 (Active 4202) |
level_of_series = 6 |
number_of_regions = 27 |
top_serie_name = [[Vissha Liga]] |
national_trainer = [[Rage Lord]] |
u20_coach = [[Osmi Basein|Chukcha]] |
currency = Lev |
parity = Lev = 0.5€ |
htt_offset= +1 |
footnotes= |
}}

Bulgaria was given birth as an HT-country in November 2002. There are currently more than 4000 users in the Bulgarian leagues.

==History==
The history of HT-Bulgaria started around 2001 with more users from Bulgaria deciding to enter the game in different leagues around the world. The Bulgarian league system was created in November 2002. Later, in the spring of 2004 the website would be translated in Bulgarian, which attracts many more users.

===Important Dates===
* Summer of 2002 -- [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Lig@] is created
* 29.11.2002 at 12.12 -- [[Red--Stars]] (117071) became the first team to join the Bulgarian leagues.
* 03.12.2002 -- The first game ever to be played was a friendly match between [[Red-Stars]] and [[Panonia]] (then Pononia). The score was a smashing 0-8 for the away team. The first goal was scored in the game's first minute by [[Marin Kostov]].
* 05.02.2003 -- First official trophy won in Bulgaria - for [[Levski 1914]] with owner Black_Jack
* 04.07.2003 -- The frst champion (human user) is AC Slavi de Furore, owned by Slavi Manalov. In this way the team also completes the only double in the history of Bulgaria, after having won the cup several weeks before
* 21.02.2003 -- First win for a national team in a friendly against Taiwan by 4 - 1
* 14.05.2004 -- The U-20 team reaches the [[World Cup]] and wins the first official match for a national team on 07.05.2004 against U-20 Singapore by 2 - 1
* 24.05.2004 -- Hattrick.org presents the website's translation in Bulgarian language. The first LA is Scorcher
* 04.06.2004 -- [[Adron]], owned by Mittko, completes his hattrick of three comnsequtive titles from the [[Vissha Liga]]
* August 2004 -- [http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos], the most popular Bulgarian Hattrick forum nowadays, is created.
* 18.08.2004 -- Mitko69 becomes the first Bulgarian GM
* 05.01.2005 - [[Yellow squad]], owned by DRMalinov, completes a hattrick of national cups (seasons 4, 6 and 8)
* February 2005 -- Some of the topmost Bulgarian teams are shut down for cheating. They include the then national champion [[zumbul_bg]] and the founder of BG-Liga.
* 9.03.2005 -- The portal website [http://www.ht-bg.net HT-BG.net] becomes active

==Teams==
The teams currently in Bulgaria's Vissha liga are: [[CSKA_]], [[Ohliuv Pancharevo]], [[Maritza 1921]], [[Plovdiv United]], [[Ulux]], [[Plovdiv Ghosts]], [[Adron]] and [[Osmi Basein]].

==See also==
[[Bulgarian Club]]s
[[Bulgarian Publication]]s

[[category:Countries]]
[[category:Bulgaria]]
[[category:Bulgarian Magazine]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:37:39Z

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User:Abdabs

2005-11-25T21:34:30Z

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There had been online '''publinactions in Bulgarian language''' on [[Hattrick]].org long before the [[Bulgaria|national league system]] was created.

==External Links==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] - The most popular Bulgarian HT-Community

[http://www.bg-liga.com/ BG-Liga] - The first Bulgarian HT-Community

[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net] - an HT-Zine

[[category:Bulgaria]]

User:Abdabs

2005-11-25T21:34:15Z

24.208.184.30: /* External Links */

There had been online '''publinactions in Bulgarian language''' on [[Hattrick]].org long before the [[Bulgaria|national league system]] was created.

==External Links==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] - The most popular Bulgarian HT-Community

[http://www.bg-liga.com/ BG-Liga] - The first Bulgarian HT-Community]
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net] - an HT-Zine

[[category:Bulgaria]]

User:Abdabs

2005-11-25T21:33:20Z

24.208.184.30: /* External Links */

There had been online '''publinactions in Bulgarian language''' on [[Hattrick]].org long before the [[Bulgaria|national league system]] was created.

==External Links==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos] - The most popular Bulgarian HT-Community
[http://www.bg-liga.com/ The first Bulgarian HT-Community]
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net - an HT-Zine]

[[category:Bulgaria]]

User:Abdabs

2005-11-25T21:32:35Z

24.208.184.30: /* External Links */

There had been online '''publinactions in Bulgarian language''' on [[Hattrick]].org long before the [[Bulgaria|national league system]] was created.

==External Links==
[http://hattrick.formenos.com/ The most popular Bulgarian HT-Community]
[http://www.bg-liga.com/ The first Bulgarian HT-Community]
[http://www.ht-bg.net/ HT-BG.net - an HT-Zine]

[[category:Bulgaria]]

Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:28:42Z

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Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:28:16Z

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Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:27:54Z

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Bulgarian Forum

2005-11-25T21:26:05Z

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Bulgaria

2005-11-25T21:20:20Z

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{{Infobox_Country|
full_local_name = България |
name_(english) = Bulgaria |
image_flag = bulgaria.png |
image_coat = Coa_bulgaria.png |
image_map = locationbulgaria.png |
zone = [[Eastern Europe]] |
link_to_map = http://maps.google.com/maps?q=bulgaria&t=h&hl=en |
continent = [[Europe]] |
season = 11 |
number_of_teams = 10920 (Active 4202) |
level_of_series = 6 |
number_of_regions = 27 |
top_serie_name = [[Vissha Liga]] |
national_trainer = [[Rage Lord]] |
u20_coach = [[Osmi Basein|Chukcha]] |
currency = Lev |
parity = Lev = 0.5€ |
htt_offset= +1 |
footnotes= |
}}

Bulgaria was given birth as an HT-country in November 2002. There are currently more than 4000 users in the Bulgarian leagues.

==History==
The history of HT-Bulgaria started around 2001 with more users from Bulgaria deciding to enter the game in different leagues around the world. The Bulgarian league system was created in November 2002. Later, in the spring of 2004 the website would be translated in Bulgarian, which attracts many more users.

===Important Dates===
* Summer of 2002 -- [http://www.bg-liga.com BG-Lig@] is created
* 29.11.2002 at 12.12 -- [[Red--Stars]] (117071) became the first team to join the Bulgarian leagues.
* 03.12.2002 -- The first game ever to be played was a friendly match between [[Red-Stars]] and [[Panonia]] (then Pononia). The score was a smashing 0-8 for the away team. The first goal was scored in the game's first minute by [[Marin Kostov]].
* 05.02.2003 -- First official trophy won in Bulgaria - for [[Levski 1914]] with owner Black_Jack
* 04.07.2003 -- The frst champion (human user) is AC Slavi de Furore, owned by Slavi Manalov. In this way the team also completes the only double in the history of Bulgaria, after having won the cup several weeks before
* 21.02.2003 -- First win for a national team in a friendly against Taiwan by 4 - 1
* 14.05.2004 -- The U-20 team reaches the [[World Cup]] and wins the first official match for a national team on 07.05.2004 against U-20 Singapore by 2 - 1
* 24.05.2004 -- Hattrick.org presents the website's translation in Bulgarian language. The first LA is Scorcher
* 04.06.2004 -- [[Adron]], owned by Mittko, completes his hattrick of three comnsequtive titles from the [[Vissha Liga]]
* August 2004 -- [http://hattrick.formenos.com/ Hattrick.Formenos], the most popular Bulgarian HT forum nowadays, is created as a protest against the mass cheating in the upper groups of the Bulgarian league
* 18.08.2004 -- Mitko69 becomes the first Bulgarian GM
* 05.01.2005 - [[Yellow squad]], owned by DRMalinov, completes a hattrick of national cups (seasons 4, 6 and 8)
* February 2005 -- Some of the topmost Bulgarian teams, including the founder of BG-Liga, are shut down for cheating. They include the then national champion [[zumbul_bg]]
* 9.03.2005 -- The portal website [http://www.ht-bg.net HT-BG.net] becomes active

==Teams==
The teams currently in Bulgaria's Vissha liga are: [[CSKA_]], [[Ohliuv Pancharevo]], [[Maritza 1921]], [[Plovdiv United]], [[Ulux]], [[Plovdiv Ghosts]], [[Adron]] and [[Osmi Basein]].

==See also==
[[Bulgarian Club]]s
[[Bulgarian Publication]]s

[[category:Countries]]
[[category:Bulgaria]]
[[category:Bulgarian Magazine]]