{{Federation|
federname = OLDER |
allianceid = 4575 |
urifedlogo = [[Image:logo-older.jpg | OLDER]] |
htuser = Baardmans |
federfoundingdate = 20-08-2003 |
numberofmembers = 484 (on 09-01-2009) |
languages = [[Dutch]], [[Flemish]], [[English]],[[Russian]], [[Spanish]]}}
'''OLDER''' (formerly known as ''Ouwe Lullen Denktank En Relaxhuis'') is a [[federation]] for (mainly) [[Nederland|Dutch]] and [[België|Flemish]] [[manager]]s who are at least 30 years young.

==History==

The Federation was founded on 23 August 2003. During the long time of its existence off course several little conflicts occurred. Most conflicts resulted in members temporarily leaving the federation and/or establishing another federation e.g. Nostalgia, RUMM, GEZELLIG (63414) and New Order (76481). One major interfederal conflict occurred as is described in the external link of this page! One little remark on that beautiful well illustrated story is that in reality two spy's from the opposing federation were expelled, thrown into the sea and could swim back to their rusty Island :-) 
Once or twice a year there will be such a little crisis within the federation. It’s nothing to worry about because the reason can be weather change, work pressure, stress or even a lack of alcohol.
It starts with a simple subject like castration, policy on who to accept in the federation, bumping or whatever. This crises than accelerates into a fierce discussion which can end in a number of members leaving the federation.
Still nothing to worry about! After a couple of days or maybe weeks common sense returns and so do the members. 
During time Leader Hunze was succeeded by -Cyclops- and changed his nick into ManInBlack (MiB). A nearly similar Federation (New Order) was again founded by MiB because this time the normal procedure in conflicts was not followed, and the original founder of de federation left forever in September 2008. Baardmans took over from -Cyclops- in November 2008.

==Forum Activities==
* Nearly every season an OLDER Cup
* Weekly an OLDER Toto
* Weekly a general knowledge Quiz
* Weekly a Pictogram quiz
* And every week: Forsee your teams stars ratings
* Very short story in relation to a presented picture
* Weekly a Film quiz
* And for the old ones a cover of an LP is presented and the question is what Album is presented.
* And too many other little games to mention:-)

==Meetings==
# Amsterdam (8 November 2003) 
# Groningen 
# Tilburg (19 June 2004) 
# Nijmegen 
# Utrecht 
# Amsterdam (29 January 2005) 
# Brugge (21 May 2005) 
# Den Haag (20 August 2005) (''second birthday OLDER'') 
# Hengelo (24 September 2005) 
# Dordrecht (18 February 2006) 
# Zwolle (22 April 2006) 
# Gent (12 August 2006) 
# Haarlem (2 December 2006) 
# 's Hertogenbosch (24 March 2007) 
# Amersfoort (14 July 2007) 
# Goes (3 November 2007) 
# Assen (23 February 2008) 
# Haelen/Roermond (14 June 2008) 
# Utrecht (23 August 2008) (''fifth birthday OLDER'') 
# Rotterdam (4 October 2008) 
# Etten-Leur (24 January 2009) 
# Arnhem (16 May 2009) 
# Monnickendam (5 September 2009) 
# Utrecht (9 January 2010) 
# 's Hertogenbosch (17 April 2010) 
# Haarlem (7 August 2010) 

==Offices and Membership Types==
* El Presidente
* Beleidsadviseur
* Dagelijks Bestuur
* Dictator buiten dienst
* Cup Master
* Jeugdcompetitieleider
* Reserve Portier
* Verdienstelijk Lid
* Intern iets
* LogoMaker
* Lid van het eerste uur / Ouderling
* Erelid
* Lepeldrager
* OLDER-Saurus
* Special member (English speaking)
* Methusalem ''(over 65 years)''
* Wijze ''(between 55 and 65 years)''
* Senior ''(between 45 and 55 years)''
* Volwassen lid ''(between 40 and 45 years)''
* Junior ''(between 35 and 40 years)''
* Pionier ''(between 30 and 35 years)''
* Oriënterend lid ''(new members)''

== Older Cup==

Nearly every Hattrick season an OLDER CUP is organised. The first edition took place in season 16.

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|-style="background: #5A2500; color: #FFFFFF;"
!width="50"|edition
!width="70"|date
!winner
!runner-up
!width="60"|score
!width="90"|matchid

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #F9F9F9;"
|1
|28-12-2005
|'''KFC derneffest''' {{teamid|81247}}
|Elio's Boys {{teamid|209793}}
|3-0
|{{matchid|58969511}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #DDDDDD;"
|2
|05-04-2006
|'''inpakcentrale icn''' {{teamid|210606}}
|FC Brokkie {{teamid|149492}}
|1-0
|{{matchid|69861571}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #F9F9F9;"
|3
|09-08-2006
|'''KFC derneffest''' {{teamid|81247}}
|FC Promille {{teamid|211280}}
|4-2
|{{matchid|83983273}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #DDDDDD;"
|4
|29-11-2006
|'''Goemannetjes''' {{teamid|69336}}
|Enduring Freedom {{teamid|68168}}
|6-1
|{{matchid|98153938}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #F9F9F9;"
|5
|16-05-2007
|'''Cloudies''' {{teamid|149455}}
|Vuile Honden {{teamid|147667}}
|2-0
|{{matchid|125767017}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #DDDDDD;"
|6
|04-07-2007
|'''ArtWork''' {{teamid|363982}}
|JoJo Vooruit {{teamid|150052}}
|4-3
|{{matchid|127639900}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #F9F9F9;"
|7
|24-10-2007
|'''Goemannetjes''' {{teamid|69336}}
|Chincana {{teamid|360228}}
|8-0
|{{matchid|143028538}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #DDDDDD;"
|8
|13-01-2008
|'''Waalstad Wanderers''' {{teamid|69124}}
|Schavuit {{teamid|209512}}
|3-0
|{{matchid|158555669}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #F9F9F9;"
|9
|04-06-2008
|'''Milsbeek''' {{teamid|21095}}
|Schavuit {{teamid|209512}}
|2-1
|{{matchid|174161436}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #DDDDDD;"
|10
|24-09-2008
|'''FC W.I.O.D.''' {{teamid|364978}}
|Brummen United {{teamid|815696}}
|5-2
|{{matchid|189845926}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #F9F9F9;"
|11
|13-05-2009
|'''RKTVV''' {{teamid|144365}}
|de Moerasboys {{teamid|1452640}}
|2-0
|{{matchid|222186272}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #DDDDDD;"
|12
|02-09-2009
|'''Grolsche Boys''' {{teamid|100557}}
|FC de Troeters {{teamid|1386297}}
|3-2
|{{matchid|237977745}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #F9F9F9;"
|13
|23-12-2009
|'''Brummen United''' {{teamid|815696}}
|Waalstad Wanderers {{teamid|69124}}
|3-1
|{{matchid|254043054}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #DDDDDD;"
|14
|07-04-2010
|'''Grolsche Boys''' {{teamid|1005579}}
|Waalstad Wanderers {{teamid|69124}}
|5-2
|{{matchid|269710333}}

|-align="center" style="border-bottom: #999999 thin solid; background: #F9F9F9;"
|15
|04-08-2010
|'''Grolsche Boys''' {{teamid|1005579}}
|de dijk 2000 {{teamid|207043}}
|2-1
|{{matchid|286018951}}
|}

== See Also ==
* [[Spam War]]

{{stub-federation}}
[[category:Dutch Federations]]
[[Category:Older Managers Federations]]

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