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Talk:Achievements

2006-12-15T21:57:43Z

KOCMOHABT: /* Total TSI */

== Headline text ==
I'm trying to sort out the achievements by category and by points they give. I'd also like them to be written ''exactly'' as they are written in Hattrick. The six achievements I have put under team and manager achievements are the ones I have seen, and will propably be rather soon visible in most of the achievement pages. If you write any rare achievements here I'd love to see them myself, so I would appreciate the team id of teams where you have spotted those particular achievements. I'm sorry myself that I missed that myself, but as I said, those six achievements will be very common. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 21:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I can now confirm that retiring a player to the hall of fame does not count as an achievement. --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 01:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Improving a player skill also gives points!! ''/common/achievements.asp?userID=3339957'' --gedo1
MijlPaal/MileStone Fed. (RMPF)

But improving stamina does not. How should we notice that in the article ?

== added points ==

I added the Points for Stars

added new Points for home-grown lineup (userID=4811957)

== Please copy & paste ==

Please either copy & paste the english versions of the achievements or give us the team id# where you saw this achievement. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 09:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

: Troop total and cash is king can be found on team ID#55409 and #60967. There are others in England right now with variable values for the same achievement. It appears to be calculated and given on the economic update, which England just had. [[User:207.251.86.55|207.251.86.55]] 20:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

: I'm assuming that these are for total TSI of the whole team. The more you have, the more points. Kind of encourages buying a divine for an economic update. The other is for having a certain cash balance on hand for an economic update. As the entire world goes through the updates, we should get a fairly clear picture on what the brackets are. I assume that they are going to be spaced evenly up to a certain point, just like the stars. [[User:207.251.86.55|207.251.86.55]] 20:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== gone ==

the points you received for achieving a certain amount of stars during the last game are gone at the moment!?!

: There was an error which caused the number of stars and the matchid to get mixed up and because of that they deleted all those entries after the algorithm was fixed. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== Cash is king research ==

* 8 858 736 € - 13 648 271 € = 35pts
* 5 210 727 € - 8 946 721 € = 25pts
* 1 405 292 € - 5 116 015 € = 15pts
* 2 035 066 € = 5pts
* - 5 895 999 € = 0pts

Based on this small research (about 20 teams) I'd come to a conclusion that this Achievement is not realted to the amount of cash team has on its account. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 21:09, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

: This is indeed strange, but there's a rumor floating around that teams that don't have an "active" achievement such as pulling a youth or selling a player won't get a passive achievement such as cash because this would save server computations. So far, I haven't seen any teams that invalidate this rumor. [[User:A123456|A123456]] 14:44, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe this achievement is related to the number of economists a team has. I am at least willing to test this by gradually hiring more and more economists. I will post here my cash totals and number of economists. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I've come to believe it's upto cash after all. Let us collect the figures here. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 01:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

{| style="border-collapse:collapse;" border="1"
|-
! Date !! Cash !! # of economists !! Last week profit !! Cash is King points !! signature
|-
| 2.12.2006 || 1 159 596 € || 1 economist || 59 367 € || 5 pts || --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 2.12.2006 || 4 218 344 € || 3 economists || 2 298 763 € || 15 pts || --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 02:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 2.12.2006 || 6 444 979 € || 10 economists || 227 039 € || 25 pts || --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 09:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 2.12.2006 || 1 419 466 US$ || 1 economist || 161 599 US$ || 5 pts || --[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 10:10:18, 2006-12-03 (UTC)
|-
| 3.12.2006 || 1 251 264 US$ || 0 economists || 92 420 US$ || 5 pts || --[[User:IndianaRed|IndianaRed]] 18:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|}

== Total TSI ==

*I just got this and I didn't fully understand so instead of editting the wiki I decided to put it in the discussion:

01/12/2006 Troop total TSI reached [TSI] 15

I have "Troop total TSI reached 67200 5", however, foxtrick and Hattrick Control show me that my team have TSI 68.600. Is this another bug??

: That indeed was a bug which is now fixed according to HT-Thomas. The shown values should be identical after the next update. [[User:Mjoelnir|Mjoelnir]]

*Interesting - what happens if you get TSI above a threshhold, then sell a player before an update occurs? I have just had it around 1350000 for most of the week - but did not get anything so far..

== Nice Squad ==
Special Awards
Date Achievement Points How common
03-12-2006 Nice Squad 5 9

Hi. My team is Kortrijk Golden Spurs with TeamID = 195034.
I received a very unique acchievement. Question is why?

I have allmost all clowns in my team? Maybe all popular players give this or maybe due to clowns. No idea.

== Fan club size research ==

I guess this needs also some research. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 15:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

{| style="border-collapse:collapse;" border="1"
|-
! Date !! Fan club size !! points !! signature
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 3558 || 30 || --[[User:Mod-Hakerpaps|Mod-Hakerpaps]] 17:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 3477 || 30 || (from HT Forum (Gizom967)) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 3204 || 30 || Jesse (130.89.217.30) 16:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2527 || 15 || [[User:Ojciec_Dyrektor|Ojciec_Dyrektor]] 18:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2509 || 15 || --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 04:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2501 || 15 || (from HT Forum (wickedsoul)) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2424 || 15 || (from HT Forum (Shima)) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2307 || 15 || From Pattrick, added by Jesse 16:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2096 || 15 || --[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 19:32:52, 2006-12-05 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2029 || 15 || --[[User:IndianaRed|IndianaRed]] 18:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 1893 || 5 || --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 15:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 1596 || 5 || (from HT Forum (Beukenoot)) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 1402 || 5 || --[[User:Mjoelnir|Mjoelnir]] (points were updated way later)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 1091 || 5 || (from HT Forum (jenas28), dubious) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|}
The limits are as follows:

1500 = 5 points
2000 = 15 points
3000 = 30 points

I've got 1308 fans and 5 points, so table is not true.

: That doesn't proove the table wrong. It just tells us that the achievement isn't awarded to everyone. Someone told in the HT-forum that his fan club didn't change in size and he got 0 points with a fanclub over 2000. Maybe the achievement is checked only when the fan club size is changed. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

--<br>
On the Dutch national forum there is a discussion about this point: ''Sold a youth player (10 pts)'', some people sold their youth players, but didn't get any points. Are there any teams (teamid's) who did receive this achievement? If not, this achievement can be removed. [[User:Lightsun|Lightsun]]

: There are over 900 teams with this. Team #301371 is one example. There may be a bug where it's not being recorded anymore but it is there. [[User:A123456|A123456]] 13:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Achievements

2006-12-15T21:57:26Z

KOCMOHABT: /* Total TSI */

== Headline text ==
I'm trying to sort out the achievements by category and by points they give. I'd also like them to be written ''exactly'' as they are written in Hattrick. The six achievements I have put under team and manager achievements are the ones I have seen, and will propably be rather soon visible in most of the achievement pages. If you write any rare achievements here I'd love to see them myself, so I would appreciate the team id of teams where you have spotted those particular achievements. I'm sorry myself that I missed that myself, but as I said, those six achievements will be very common. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 21:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I can now confirm that retiring a player to the hall of fame does not count as an achievement. --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 01:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Improving a player skill also gives points!! ''/common/achievements.asp?userID=3339957'' --gedo1
MijlPaal/MileStone Fed. (RMPF)

But improving stamina does not. How should we notice that in the article ?

== added points ==

I added the Points for Stars

added new Points for home-grown lineup (userID=4811957)

== Please copy & paste ==

Please either copy & paste the english versions of the achievements or give us the team id# where you saw this achievement. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 09:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

: Troop total and cash is king can be found on team ID#55409 and #60967. There are others in England right now with variable values for the same achievement. It appears to be calculated and given on the economic update, which England just had. [[User:207.251.86.55|207.251.86.55]] 20:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

: I'm assuming that these are for total TSI of the whole team. The more you have, the more points. Kind of encourages buying a divine for an economic update. The other is for having a certain cash balance on hand for an economic update. As the entire world goes through the updates, we should get a fairly clear picture on what the brackets are. I assume that they are going to be spaced evenly up to a certain point, just like the stars. [[User:207.251.86.55|207.251.86.55]] 20:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== gone ==

the points you received for achieving a certain amount of stars during the last game are gone at the moment!?!

: There was an error which caused the number of stars and the matchid to get mixed up and because of that they deleted all those entries after the algorithm was fixed. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== Cash is king research ==

* 8 858 736 € - 13 648 271 € = 35pts
* 5 210 727 € - 8 946 721 € = 25pts
* 1 405 292 € - 5 116 015 € = 15pts
* 2 035 066 € = 5pts
* - 5 895 999 € = 0pts

Based on this small research (about 20 teams) I'd come to a conclusion that this Achievement is not realted to the amount of cash team has on its account. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 21:09, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

: This is indeed strange, but there's a rumor floating around that teams that don't have an "active" achievement such as pulling a youth or selling a player won't get a passive achievement such as cash because this would save server computations. So far, I haven't seen any teams that invalidate this rumor. [[User:A123456|A123456]] 14:44, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe this achievement is related to the number of economists a team has. I am at least willing to test this by gradually hiring more and more economists. I will post here my cash totals and number of economists. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I've come to believe it's upto cash after all. Let us collect the figures here. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 01:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

{| style="border-collapse:collapse;" border="1"
|-
! Date !! Cash !! # of economists !! Last week profit !! Cash is King points !! signature
|-
| 2.12.2006 || 1 159 596 € || 1 economist || 59 367 € || 5 pts || --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 2.12.2006 || 4 218 344 € || 3 economists || 2 298 763 € || 15 pts || --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 02:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 2.12.2006 || 6 444 979 € || 10 economists || 227 039 € || 25 pts || --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 09:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 2.12.2006 || 1 419 466 US$ || 1 economist || 161 599 US$ || 5 pts || --[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 10:10:18, 2006-12-03 (UTC)
|-
| 3.12.2006 || 1 251 264 US$ || 0 economists || 92 420 US$ || 5 pts || --[[User:IndianaRed|IndianaRed]] 18:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|}

== Total TSI ==

I just got this and I didn't fully understand so instead of editting the wiki I decided to put it in the discussion:

01/12/2006 Troop total TSI reached [TSI] 15

I have "Troop total TSI reached 67200 5", however, foxtrick and Hattrick Control show me that my team have TSI 68.600. Is this another bug??

: That indeed was a bug which is now fixed according to HT-Thomas. The shown values should be identical after the next update. [[User:Mjoelnir|Mjoelnir]]

Interesting - what happens if you get TSI above a threshhold, then sell a player before an update occurs? I have just had it around 1350000 for most of the week - but did not get anything so far..

== Nice Squad ==
Special Awards
Date Achievement Points How common
03-12-2006 Nice Squad 5 9

Hi. My team is Kortrijk Golden Spurs with TeamID = 195034.
I received a very unique acchievement. Question is why?

I have allmost all clowns in my team? Maybe all popular players give this or maybe due to clowns. No idea.

== Fan club size research ==

I guess this needs also some research. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 15:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

{| style="border-collapse:collapse;" border="1"
|-
! Date !! Fan club size !! points !! signature
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 3558 || 30 || --[[User:Mod-Hakerpaps|Mod-Hakerpaps]] 17:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 3477 || 30 || (from HT Forum (Gizom967)) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 3204 || 30 || Jesse (130.89.217.30) 16:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2527 || 15 || [[User:Ojciec_Dyrektor|Ojciec_Dyrektor]] 18:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2509 || 15 || --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 04:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2501 || 15 || (from HT Forum (wickedsoul)) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2424 || 15 || (from HT Forum (Shima)) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2307 || 15 || From Pattrick, added by Jesse 16:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2096 || 15 || --[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 19:32:52, 2006-12-05 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 2029 || 15 || --[[User:IndianaRed|IndianaRed]] 18:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 1893 || 5 || --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 15:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 1596 || 5 || (from HT Forum (Beukenoot)) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 1402 || 5 || --[[User:Mjoelnir|Mjoelnir]] (points were updated way later)
|-
| 4.12.2006 || 1091 || 5 || (from HT Forum (jenas28), dubious) --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
|}
The limits are as follows:

1500 = 5 points
2000 = 15 points
3000 = 30 points

I've got 1308 fans and 5 points, so table is not true.

: That doesn't proove the table wrong. It just tells us that the achievement isn't awarded to everyone. Someone told in the HT-forum that his fan club didn't change in size and he got 0 points with a fanclub over 2000. Maybe the achievement is checked only when the fan club size is changed. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

--<br>
On the Dutch national forum there is a discussion about this point: ''Sold a youth player (10 pts)'', some people sold their youth players, but didn't get any points. Are there any teams (teamid's) who did receive this achievement? If not, this achievement can be removed. [[User:Lightsun|Lightsun]]

: There are over 900 teams with this. Team #301371 is one example. There may be a bug where it's not being recorded anymore but it is there. [[User:A123456|A123456]] 13:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

User:KOCMOHABT

2006-12-08T20:18:20Z

KOCMOHABT: /* KOCMOHABT */

== KOCMOHABT ==

1. cos·mo·naut (kŏz'mə-nôt') n. A Russian or Soviet astronaut. [Russian kosmonaut : Greek kosmos, universe + Greek nautēs, sailor.]

2. Manager of [[3ATPABKA]] [[Hattrick]] club.

2006-12-05T20:20:07Z

KOCMOHABT: Team logo

Team logo

3ATPABKA

2006-12-05T20:15:09Z

KOCMOHABT:

{{Club |
teamname = 3ATPABKA |
teamid = 28791|
logouri = [[Image:Bbcwappen.jpg | Wappen der BBC first eleven]] |
htuser = KOCMOHABT |
country = Russia |
region = St. Petersburg |
arena = TPABKA |
fanclub = PO3OBblE CJIOHbl}}

Manager: [[KOCMOHABT]]

== Arena: TPABKA ==

* Name: '''Brisbane Oval - BBC Main Players' Ground'''
* Last improvement: 18.01.2005
* Total capacity: 94296

[[Category: Russia Clubs]]