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All ahead full

2006-08-04T19:20:40Z

Stranger 2: links

'''All ahead full''' is a variation of [[2-5-3]] where [[attack]] is maxed-out regardless of the probability of very low other [[ratings]]. It is a suicidal form of attack, with no defence apart from your [[goalkeeper]]; but it has some limited advantages depending upon the situation. That's why it is rarely used in official matches.

When playing against an opponent that '''you know for sure''' will use some [[CA]] formation without any middle like [[5-2-3]] but he/she will have some very serious [[defence]], you can try to break it by using this tactics. Watch out for [[confusion]] when you use this. Usualy a very good [[team leader]] for your team will help reducing [[confusion]].

If your opponent doesn't have [[midfield]] at all and you want to score a lot of goals, you can also use this tactics.

{{Line-up|
title = All ahead full |
gk = GK |
wb_right = WBO |
cd_right = E.FO |
cd_left = E.IM |
wb_left = WBO |
w_right = W.O |
im_right = IM.O |
im_left = IM.O |
w_left = W.O |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}

===See also===

[[Norwegian tactic]]

[[All out tactics]]

[[Category:Tactics]]

Norwegian tactics

2006-08-01T17:07:54Z

Stranger 2:

#redirect [[Norwegian tactic]]

Offensive defenders tactic

2006-08-01T17:07:35Z

Stranger 2:

#redirect [[Norwegian tactic]]

User:Stranger 2

2006-07-02T20:58:43Z

Stranger 2:

hi all ;)

Talk:Offensive defenders tactic

2005-12-13T00:31:24Z

Stranger 2:

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-29T01:28:57Z

Stranger 2:

===What is it?===

Norwegian tactic (also called simply "Norway" or "Norge") concentrates on boosting [[midfield]] and/or [[attack]] at expense of [[defence]]. The idea behind this tactics is simple as inequality: 5 > (10-6), meaning: if you'll get 6 out of 10 chances there are in every match, and you will score from at least 5 of them, you will win the match even if your opponent scores from every chance he gets. In other words, if your possesion is big enough to get you 6 chances in a match and your attacks are good enough to convert those chances into goals, you need no defence at all. So if giving up defence will give you such midfield and attacks, then it is a logical thing to do.

===Why is it called "Norwegian?"===

The name of this tactic derives from famous final match (MatchID: 14287675) of [[World Cup]] IV, played on 29.02.2004, in which [[Norge|Norway]] beat [[Sverige|Sweden]] 4-2 (it was the only [[World Cup]] not won by Sweden so far). Norwegian [[National Teams|NT]] coach [[Snylte]] used the following [[line-up]]:

{{Line-up|
title = Norway gold medal line-up|
gk = GK |
wb_right = WB off|
cd_right = CD off|
cd_left = CD off|
wb_left = exIM |
w_right = W off|
im_right = IM off|
im_left = IM off|
w_left = WTM |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}

This was in reality not the first match in which Norwegian tactic was used, only the most famous one. The oldest Norwegian tactic matches I know, were played on 29.10.2003 (friendly, MatchID: 9958212) and 12.11.2003 (cup, MatchID: 12860969) - 4 months before the World Cup final - and there are probably even older ones (please submit them if you find them).

===Norwegian tactic vs. all out tactic===

Norwegian tactic is often mistaken with "classic" all out tactic, which concentrates on boosting midfield (possesion), even at expense of attack (for example playing both wingers toward middle), but they're really not the same. The following table summerises the differences between them.

{| align="center" border="1"
|- align="left"
|
| Norwegian tactic
| all out tactic
|- align="left"
| purpose
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
| gain at least 6 chances, score at least 5
|}
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
| gain all the chances in the game
|}
|- align="left"
| the idea
| if you score 5 goals while opponent can only score 4, you need no defence, you'll win anyway
| if you gain all the chances in the game the opponent won't score and with so many chances you must score something even with weak attack
|- align="left"
| means used
| relative to opponent's stats; possesion >59%, attacks (at least central attack or both wings) equal or stronger then opponent's defences
| extremely high midfield
|- align="left"
| lineups used
| [[3-5-2]], [[3-4-3]], ([[2-5-3]])
| [[3-5-2]], ([[2-5-3]])
|- align="left"
| tactics used
| [[AIM]], [[AOW]], [[normal]]
| [[AIM]]
|- align="left"
| players used
| 3 or 2 midfielders, 2 or 3 forwards, wingers off or TM, 1 or 2 CD off, 1 or 2 Wb off
| 3 midfielders, 2 forwards, 2 wingers TM, 2 CD off, WB doesn't really matter
|- align="left"
| counter tactics
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
|-
| a) strong midfield (possesion >44%) with central defence (if opponent is playing AIM) or both wing defences (if AOW/normal) stronger then opponents attacks
|-
| b) all defences much, much stronger then his attacks, CA
|}
| boosting central defence, CA and/or possesion >39%
|}

===Effectiveness===

While the changes changes in the game engine that increased the importance of defence - especially the introduction of CA and defensive coaches - severely hindered the effective use of all out tactic, the Norwegian tactic is still successfuly used by many managers.

===See also===

[[All out tactics]]

[[Category:Tactics]]

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-29T01:08:58Z

Stranger 2:

===What is it?===

Norwegian tactic (also called simply "Norway" or "Norge") concentrates on boosting [[midfield]] and/or [[attack]] at expense of [[defence]]. The idea behind this tactics is simple as inequality: 5 > (10-6), meaning: if you'll get 6 out of 10 chances there are in every match, and you will score from at least 5 of them, you will win the match even if your opponent scores from every chance he gets. In other words, if your possesion is big enough to get you 6 chances in a match and your attacks are good enough to convert those chances into goals, you need no defence at all. So if giving up defence will give you such midfield and attacks, then it is a logical thing to do.

===Why is it called "Norwegian?"===

The name of this tactic derives from famous final match (MatchID: 14287675) of [[World Cup]] IV, played on 29.02.2004, in which [[Norge|Norway]] beat [[Sverige|Sweden]] 4-2 (it was the only [[World Cup]] not won by Sweden so far). Norwegian [[National Teams|NT]] coach [[Snylte]] used the following [[line-up]]:

{{Line-up|
title = Norway gold medal line-up|
gk = GK |
wb_right = WB off|
cd_right = CD off|
cd_left = CD off|
wb_left = exIM |
w_right = W off|
im_right = IM off|
im_left = IM off|
w_left = WTM |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}

This was in reality not the first match in which Norwegian tactic was used, only the most famous one. The oldest Norwegian tactic matches I know, were played on 29.10.2003 (friendly, MatchID: 9958212) and 12.11.2003 (cup, MatchID: 12860969) - 4 months before the World Cup final - and there are probably even older ones (please submit them if you find them).

===Norwegian tactic vs. all out tactic===

Norwegian tactic is often mistaken with "classic" all out tactic, which concentrates on boosting midfield (possesion), even at expense of attack (for example playing both wingers toward middle), but they're really not the same. The following table summerises the differences between them.

{| align="center" border="1"
|- align="left"
|
| Norwegian tactic
| all out tactic
|- align="left"
| purpose
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
| gain at least 6 chances, score at least 5
|}
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
| gain all the chances in the game
|}
|- align="left"
| the idea
| if you score 5 goals while opponent can only score 4, you need no defence, you'll win anyway
| if you gain all the chances in the game the opponent won't score and with so many chances you must score something even with weak attack
|- align="left"
| means used
| relative to opponent's stats; possesion >59%, attacks (at least central attack or both wings) equal or stronger then opponent's defences
| extremely high midfield
|- align="left"
| lineups used
| [[3-5-2]], [[3-4-3]], ([[2-5-3]])
| [[3-5-2]], ([[2-5-3]])
|- align="left"
| tactics used
| [[AIM]], [[AOW]], [[normal]]
| [[AIM]]
|- align="left"
| players used
| 3 or 2 midfielders, 2 or 3 forwards, wingers off or TM, 1 or 2 CD off, 1 or 2 Wb off
| 3 midfielders, 2 forwards, 2 wingers TM, 2 CD off, WB doesn't really matter
|- align="left"
| counter tactics
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
|-
| a) strong midfield (possesion >44%) with central defence (if opponent is playing AIM) or both wing defences (if AOW/normal) stronger then opponents attacks
|-
| b) all defences much, much stronger then his attacks, CA
|}
| boosting central defence, CA and/or possesion >39%
|}

===Effectiveness===

Even if after the use of this tactics there were changes in the game engine that increased the importance of defending, it is still used .

===See also===

[[All out tactics]]

[[Category:Tactics]]

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-29T00:58:20Z

Stranger 2:

===What is it?===

Norwegian tactic (also called simply "Norway" or "Norge") concentrates on boosting [[midfield]] and/or [[attack]] at expense of [[defence]]. The idea behind this tactics is simple as inequality: 5 > (10-6), meaning: if you'll get 6 out of 10 chances there are in every match, and you will score from at least 5 of them, you will win the match even if your opponent scores from every chance he gets. In other words, if your possesion is big enough to get you 6 chances in a match and your attacks are good enough to convert those chances into goals, you need no defence at all. So if giving up defence will give you such midfield and attacks, then it is a logical thing to do.

===Why is it called "Norwegian?"===

The name of this tactic derives from famous final match (MatchID: 14287675) of [[World Cup]] IV, played on 29.02.2004, in which [[Norge|Norway]] beat [[Sverige|Sweden]] 4-2 (it was the only [[World Cup]] not won by Sweden so far). Norwegian [[National Teams|NT]] coach [[Snylte]] used the following [[line-up]]:

{{Line-up|
title = Norway gold medal line-up|
gk = GK |
wb_right = WB off|
cd_right = CD off|
cd_left = CD off|
wb_left = exIM |
w_right = W off|
im_right = IM off|
im_left = IM off|
w_left = WTM |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}

This was in reality not the first match in which Norwegian tactic was used, only the most famous one. The oldest Norwegian tactic matches I know, were played on 29.10.2003 (friendly, MatchID: 9958212) and 12.11.2003 (cup, MatchID: 12860969) - 4 months before the World Cup final - and there are probably even older ones (please submit them if you find them).

===Norwegian tactic vs. all out tactic===

Norwegian tactic is often mistaken with "classic" all out tactic, which concentrates on boosting midfield (possesion), even at expense of attack (for example playing both wingers toward middle), but they're really not the same.

{| align="center" border="1"
|- align="left"
|
| Norwegian tactic
| all out tactic
|- align="left"
| purpose
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
| gain at least 6 chances, score at least 5
|}
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
| gain all the chances in the game
|}
|- align="left"
| the idea
| if you score 5 goals while opponent can only score 4, you need no defence, you'll win anyway
| if you gain all the chances in the game the opponent won't score and with so many chances you must score something even with weak attack
|- align="left"
| means used
| relative to opponent's stats; possesion >59% (at least >55%), attacks (at least central attack or both wings) equal or stronger then opponent's defences
| extremly high midfield
|- align="left"
| lineups used
| [[3-5-2]], [[3-4-3]], ([[2-5-3]])
| [[3-5-2]], ([[2-5-3]])
|- align="left"
| tactics used
| [[AIM]], [[AOW]], [[normal]]
| [[AIM]]
|- align="left"
| players used
| 3 or 2 midfielders, wingers off or TM, 1 or 2 CD off, 1 or 2 Wb off
| 3 midfielders, 2 wingers TM, 2 CD off, WB doesn't really matter
|- align="left"
| counter tactics
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
|-
| a) strong midfield (possesion >44%) with central defence (if opponent is playing AIM) or both wing defences (if AOW/normal) stronger then opponents attacks
|-
| b) all defences much, much stronger then his attacks, CA
|}
| boosting central defence, CA and/or possesion >39%
|}

===Effectiveness===

Even if after the use of this tactics there were changes in the game engine that increased the importance of defending, it is still used [[All out tactics]].

[[Category:Tactics]]

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-29T00:01:20Z

Stranger 2:

===What is it?===

Norwegian tactic (also called simply "Norway" or "Norge") concentrates on boosting [[midfield]] and/or [[attack]] at expense of [[defence]]. The idea behind this tactics is simple as inequality: 5 > (10-6), meaning: if you'll get 6 out of 10 chances there are in every match, and you will score from at least 5 of them, you will win the match even if your opponent scores from every chance he gets. In other words, if your possesion is big enough to get you 6 chances in a match and your attacks are good enough to convert those chances into goals, you need no defence at all. So if giving up defence will give you such midfield and attacks, then it is a logical thing to do.

===Why is it called "Norwegian?"===

The name of this tactic derives from famous final match (MatchID: 14287675) of [[World Cup]] IV, played on 29.02.2004, in which [[Norge|Norway]] beat [[Sverige|Sweden]] 4-2 (it was the only [[World Cup]] not won by Sweden so far). Norwegian [[National Teams|NT]] coach [[Snylte]] used the following [[line-up]]:

{{Line-up|
title = Norway gold medal line-up|
gk = GK |
wb_right = WB off|
cd_right = CD off|
cd_left = CD off|
wb_left = exIM |
w_right = W off|
im_right = IM off|
im_left = IM off|
w_left = WTM |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}

This was in reality not the first match in which Norwegian tactic was used, only the most famous one. The oldest Norwegian tactic matches I know, were played on 29.10.2003 (friendly, MatchID: 9958212) and 12.11.2003 (cup, MatchID: 12860969) - 4 months before the World Cup final - and there are probably even older ones (please submit them if you find them).

===Norwegian tactic vs. all out tactic===

Norwegian tactic is often mistaken with "classic" all out tactic, which concentrates on boosting midfield (possesion), even at expense of attack (for example playing both wingers toward middle), but they're really not the same.

{| align="center" border="1"
|-
|
| Norwegian tactic
| all out tactic
|-
| purpose
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
| gain at least 6 chances, score at least 5
|}
| align="left" width="400px" |
{| border="0"
| gain all the chances in the game
|}
|-
| the idea
| if you score 5 goals while opponent can only score 4, you need no defence, you'll win anyway
| if you gain all the chances in the game the opponent won't score and with so many chances you must score something even with weak attack
|-
| lineups used
| [[3-5-2]], [[3-4-3]], ([[2-5-3]])
| [[3-5-2]], ([[2-5-3]])
|-
| tactics used
| [[AIM]], [[AOW]], [[normal]]
| [[AIM]]
|}

===Effectiveness===

Even if after the use of this tactics there were changes in the game engine that increased the importance of defending, it is still used [[All out tactics]].

[[Category:Tactics]]

Talk:Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-26T15:49:55Z

Stranger 2:

of course i'm going to write more about Norwegian vs all out tactics, i just have to go now.

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-26T15:48:59Z

Stranger 2:

All-out Attack

2005-11-26T15:32:21Z

Stranger 2:

The "all out tactics" (German also '''Schweinetaktik''', Italian '''Tutti Avanti''') concentrates on getting as high possession as possible.

*Playing [[3-5-2]] (or even [[2-5-3]])
*Playing both [[Winger]]s towards the middle with high [[Players#Playmaking|playmaking]] [[skills]] ([[Abbreviations|WTM]])
*Playing one or two offensive [[central defender]]s with high [[playmaking skills]] ([[Abbreviations|OCD]])
*Playing [[AIM|Attack in the middle]] ([[Abbreviation|AIM]])

The all out tactics highly relies on getting '''all''' chances in a game, as normally such a team does not have a great defence (due to the offensive central defenders). The counter tactics are then of course:
*Having a massive central defence and play [[Counter Attack]]
*Somehow still winning the [[midfield]]

===See also===

[[Norwegian tactics]]

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-26T05:47:32Z

Stranger 2:

Norwegian tactics (also called simply "Norway" or "Norge") concentrates on boosting [[midfield]] and/or [[attack]] at expense of [[defence]]. The idea behind this tactics is simple as inequality: 5 > (10-6), meaning: if you'll get 6 out of 10 chances there are in every match, and you will score from at least 5 of them, you will win the match even if your opponent scores from every chance he gets. In other words, if your possesion is big enough to get you 6 chances in a match and your attacks are good enough to convert those chances into goals, you need no defence at all. So if giving up defence will give you such midfield and attacks, then it is a logical thing to do.

The name of this tactics derives from famous final match (MatchID: 14287675) of [[World Cup]] IV, played on 29.02.2004, in which [[Norge|Norway]] beat [[Sverige|Sweden]] 4-2 (it was the only World Cup not won by Sweden so far). Norwegian [[National Teams|NT]] coach [[Snylte]] used the following [[line-up]]:

{{Line-up|
title = Norway gold medal line-up|
gk = GK |
wb_right = WB off|
cd_right = CD off|
cd_left = CD off|
wb_left = exIM |
w_right = W off|
im_right = IM off|
im_left = IM off|
w_left = WTM |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-26T05:42:21Z

Stranger 2:

Norwegian tactics (also called simply "Norway" or "Norge") concentrates on boosting midfield and/or attack at expense of defence. The idea behind this tactics is simple as inequality: 5 > (10-6), meaning: if you'll get 6 out of 10 chances there are in every match, and you will score from at least 5 of them, you will win the match even if your opponent scores from every chance he gets. In other words, if your possesion is big enough to get you 6 chances in a match and your attacks are good enough to convert those chances into goals, you need no defence at all. So if giving up defence will give you such midfield and attacks, then it is a logical thing to do.

The name of this tactics derives from famous final match (MatchID: 14287675) of [[World Cup]] IV, played on 29.02.2004, in which [[Norge|Norway]] beat [[Sverige|Sweden]] 4-2 (it was the only World Cup not won by Sweden so far). Norwegian [[National Teams|NT]] coach [[Snylte]] used the following [[line-up]]:

{{Line-up|
title = Norway gold medal line-up|
gk = GK |
wb_right = WB off|
cd_right = CD off|
cd_left = CD off|
wb_left = exIM |
w_right = W off|
im_right = IM off|
im_left = IM off|
w_left = WTM |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-26T05:39:29Z

Stranger 2:

Norwegian tactics (also called simply "Norway" or "Norge") concentrates on boosting midfield and/or attack at expense of defence. The idea behind this tactics is simple as inequality: 5 > (10-6), meaning: if you'll get 6 out of 10 chances there are in every match, and you will score from at least 5 of them, you will win the match even if your opponent scores from every chance he gets. In other words, if your possesion is big enough to get you 6 chances in a match and your attacks are good enough to convert those chances into goals, you need no defence at all. So if giving up defence will give you such midfield and attacks is a logical thing to do.

The name of this tactics derives from famous final match (MatchID: 14287675) of [[World Cup]] IV, played on 29.02.2004, in which [[Norge|Norway]] beat [[Sverige|Sweden]] 4-2 (it was the only World Cup not won by Sweden so far). Norwegian [[National Teams|NT]] coach [[Snylte]] used the following [[line-up]]:

{{Line-up|
title = Norway gold medal line-up|
gk = GK |
wb_right = WB off|
cd_right = CD off|
cd_left = CD off|
wb_left = exIM |
w_right = W off|
im_right = IM off|
im_left = IM off|
w_left = WTM |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}

Offensive defenders tactic

2005-11-26T05:38:43Z

Stranger 2:

Norwegian tactics (also called simply "Norway" or "Norge") concentrates on boosting midfield and/or attack at expense of defence. The idea behind this tactics is simple as inequality: 5 > (10-6), meaning: if you'll get 6 out of 10 chances there are in every match, and you will score from at least 5 of them, you will win the match even if your opponent scores from every chance he gets. In other words, if your possesion is big enough to get you 6 chances in a match and your attacks are good enough to convert those chances into goals, you need no defence at all. So if giving up defence will give you such midfield and attacks is a logical thing to do.

The name of this tactics derives from famous final match (MatchID: 14287675) of [[World Cup]] IV, played on 29.02.2004, in which [[Norge|Norway]] beat [[Sverige|Sweden]] 4-2 (it was the only World Cup not won by Sweden so far). Norwegian [[National Team|NT]] coach [[Snylte]] used the following [[line-up]]:

{{Line-up|
title = Norway gold medal line-up|
gk = GK |
wb_right = WB off|
cd_right = CD off|
cd_left = CD off|
wb_left = exIM |
w_right = W off|
im_right = IM off|
im_left = IM off|
w_left = WTM |
f_right = FO |
f_left = FO |
}}