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Para Para: bid + early bid + bid reform articles

2020-07-18T22:25:57Z

bid + early bid + bid reform articles

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	~~The~~ '''~~new bidding rule~~''' ~~was introduced~~ in ~~season 18 as an add up to the old bidding limit of 1 000 US$ (= 1 000 €)~~. ~~The two rules work together and 50 000 US$~~ is the ~~edge between~~ the ~~old and the new system~~.		{{Interwiki/Early bid}}'''Bidding''' means offering money for [[players]] in [[transfers\|auctions]]. If a bid is placed within the last 3 minutes before a deadline, the deadline is extend of 3 minutes so that there's always a timespan for other managers to decide whether they want to raise or not.

	~~With the new~~ bidding ~~rule, the suggested bid on the [[player]] in~~ [[~~transfer market\|transferlist~~]] ~~is always 2% higher than the previous~~.		You can choose to duel in a last minute bidding challenge or use [[autobidding]] feature and set you price before deadline.

	===~~Some examples~~===		== Bidding System==
	* Last bid on Player A was 500 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 510 000 US$ (2% more).		You can freely raise up to 10% more than the current price. Anyway rules of the [[transfer list]] say that:{{textreport\|width=0\|text=
	* Last bid on Player B was 50 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 51 000 US$ (2% more AND at least 1 000 US$ more).		<blockquote>You must raise the last bid with at least 2% of the current price. </blockquote>
	* Last bid on Player C was 10 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 11 000 US$ (1 000 US$ more, the old rule taking over).		and simultaneously:
			<blockquote>You must raise at least 1 000 [[Currencies\|US$]] (= 1 000 €) higher than the previous bid.</blockquote>}}
			There is no need of calculator while in a bidding duel: the suggested bid on the player helps define the next minimum price accepted by the bidding system.

			;Some examples
			:* Last bid on Player A was 500 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 510 000 US$ (2% more).
			:* Last bid on Player B was 50 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 51 000 US$ (2% more AND at least 1 000 US$ more).
			:* Last bid on Player C was 10 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 11 000 US$ (1 000 US$ more, the old rule taking over).

			==Early bid==
			An ''early bid'' is a way to cash in on players you have for sale, before their deadline ends. The idea is to be able to spend the money you'll get for that player in advance, for instance to buy his replacement for an upcoming match.

			You list your player for zero, then you ask friends (or fellow [[federation]] members) to place a bid.
			This bid is expected to by raised by other users to normal [[Transfer compare\|market value]] before the deadline ends, so it is usually lower than market value itself. To be sure not to actually buy the player, a price sufficiently lower than the expected selling price can be estimated at around 75% of the market price.

			==Bidding limit change==
			The ''new bidding rule'' was introduced in season 18 as an add up to the old bidding limit of 1 000 US$. The two rules work together and 50 000 US$ is the edge between the old and the new system.

	~~== Announcement ==~~
	{{Hattrick announcement \|		{{Hattrick announcement \|
	\| title = <big>Bidding limit change</big>		\| title = <big>Bidding limit change</big>
	\| date = 25/01/2003		\| date = 25/01/2003
	\| text = We are now adding a new rule to the transfer list:		\| text = '''We are now adding a new rule to the transfer list: You must raise the last bid with at least 2%. '''<br>
	~~<blockquote>~~You must raise the last bid with at least 2%. <~~/blockquote~~>		'''As before, it must also be: at least 1 000 US$ higher than the previous.'''{{Based on fact}}
	As before, it must also be :		The old 1 000 US$ rule have been in effect ever since the transfer list was invented back in 1998 (season 3 in Sweden). In those ancient days, hardly any players were sold for more than 100 000 US$ (can you imagine?!) and a typical transfer was at 50 000 US$. Having a minimum step of 1 000 US$ per bid was appropriate then. Today, however, many players are sold at millions. Many people have expressed that they are frustrated with endless bidding duels where one or several of the parties raise the bid with only 1 000 US$.
	~~<blockquote>~~at least 1 000 US$ higher than the previous.~~</blockquote>~~
	{{Based on fact}}
	The old 1 000 US$ rule have been in effect ever since the ~~transferlist~~ was invented back in 1998 (season 3 in Sweden). In those ancient days, hardly any players were sold for more than 100 000 US$ (can you imagine?!) and a typical transfer was at 50 000 US$. Having a minimum step of 1 000 US$ per bid was appropriate then. Today, however, many players are sold at millions. Many people have expressed that they are frustrated with endless bidding duels where one or several of the parties raise the bid with only 1 000 US$.

	Now, auctions are about finding the right price, negotiating until there is exactly one buyer left willing to pay a certain price. It is not supposed to be about who can endure the longest bidding duel. Hence the new 2% rule. We do not believe this will significantly affect prices on the transfer market. It will just make the road to the final price a bit less annoying for all parties involved.		Now, auctions are about finding the right price, negotiating until there is exactly one buyer left willing to pay a certain price. It is not supposed to be about who can endure the longest bidding duel. Hence the new 2% rule. We do not believe this will significantly affect prices on the transfer market. It will just make the road to the final price a bit less annoying for all parties involved.

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2020-07-18T19:59:01Z

Para Para moved page Bidding limit change to Bid

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Para Para at 14:46, 11 July 2020

2020-07-11T14:46:53Z

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	~~{{Cleanup}}~~		The '''new bidding rule''' was introduced in season 18 as an add up to the old bidding limit of 1 000 US$ (= 1 000 €). The two rules work together and 50 000 US$ is the edge between the old and the new system.

	~~{{Based~~ on ~~fact}}~~		With the new bidding rule, the suggested bid on the [[player]] in [[transfer market\|transferlist]] is always 2% higher than the previous.

			===Some examples===
			* Last bid on Player A was 500 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 510 000 US$ (2% more).
			* Last bid on Player B was 50 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 51 000 US$ (2% more AND at least 1 000 US$ more).
			* Last bid on Player C was 10 000 US$ -> You must bid at least 11 000 US$ (1 000 US$ more, the old rule taking over).

	=Bidding limit change=		== Announcement ==
	~~''Date of appearance:~~ 25-01-2003~~, season 18''~~		{{Hattrick announcement \|
			\| title = <big>Bidding limit change</big>
			\| date = 25/01/2003
	We are now adding a new rule to the transfer list: You must raise the last bid with at least 2%. As before, it must also be at least ~~1000 Euro =~~ US$~~1000~~ higher than the previous.		\| text = We are now adding a new rule to the transfer list:
			<blockquote>You must raise the last bid with at least 2%. </blockquote>
	The old $~~1000~~ rule have been in effect ever since the transferlist was invented back in 1998 (season 3 in Sweden). In those ancient days, hardly any players were sold for more than $100.000 (can you imagine?!) and a typical transfer was at $50.000. Having a minimum step of $~~1000~~ per bid was appropriate then. Today, however, many players are sold at millions. Many people have expressed that they are frustrated with endless bidding duels where one or several of the parties raise the bid with only $~~1000~~.		As before, it must also be :
			<blockquote>at least 1 000 US$ higher than the previous.</blockquote>
			{{Based on fact}}
			The old 1 000 US$ rule have been in effect ever since the transferlist was invented back in 1998 (season 3 in Sweden). In those ancient days, hardly any players were sold for more than 100 000 US$ (can you imagine?!) and a typical transfer was at 50 000 US$. Having a minimum step of 1 000 US$ per bid was appropriate then. Today, however, many players are sold at millions. Many people have expressed that they are frustrated with endless bidding duels where one or several of the parties raise the bid with only 1 000 US$.

	Now, auctions are about finding the right price, negotiating until there is exactly one buyer left willing to pay a certain price. It is not supposed to be about who can endure the longest bidding duel. Hence the new 2% rule. We do not believe this will significantly affect prices on the transfer market. It will just make the road to the final price a bit less annoying for all parties involved.		Now, auctions are about finding the right price, negotiating until there is exactly one buyer left willing to pay a certain price. It is not supposed to be about who can endure the longest bidding duel. Hence the new 2% rule. We do not believe this will significantly affect prices on the transfer market. It will just make the road to the final price a bit less annoying for all parties involved.

	Basically we are adapting the old ~~$1000-~~rule to today's prices, and making it dynamic.		Basically we are adapting the old rule to today's prices, and making it dynamic. We realise that you don't want to be stuck with a pocket calculator while in a bidding duel. Therefore, the suggested bid on the player page is now always 2% higher than the previous.
			}}
	~~Some examples of what this will mean:~~
	* Last bid on Player A was $500.000. You must bid at least $510.000. (2% more)
	* Last bid on Player B was $50.000. You must bid at least $51.000. (2% more AND also $1000 more, so $50.000 is the edge between the old system and the new).
	* Last bid on Player C was $10.000. You must bid at least $11.000. ($1000 more, the old rule taking over)

	We realise that you don't want to be stuck with a pocket calculator while in a bidding duel. Therefore, the suggested bid on the player page is now always 2% higher than the previous.

	[[Category:Hattrick documents]]		[[Category:Hattrick documents]]
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Mr Wednesday: Request cleanup: looks like official HT content, should be reformatted and categorized and/or linked.

2010-04-20T22:14:04Z

Request cleanup: looks like official HT content, should be reformatted and categorized and/or linked.

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Mod-Karlthegreat at 21:53, 9 July 2008

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	We realise that you don't want to be stuck with a pocket calculator while in a bidding duel. Therefore, the suggested bid on the player page is now always 2% higher than the previous.		We realise that you don't want to be stuck with a pocket calculator while in a bidding duel. Therefore, the suggested bid on the player page is now always 2% higher than the previous.

			[[Category:Hattrick documents]]

Ukelele at 17:17, 30 November 2005

2005-11-30T17:17:35Z

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[[Category:Hattrick documentation]]
{{Based on fact}}
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=Bidding limit change=
''Date of appearance: 25-01-2003, season 18''

We are now adding a new rule to the transfer list: You must raise the last bid with at least 2%. As before, it must also be at least 1000 Euro = US$1000 higher than the previous.

The old $1000 rule have been in effect ever since the transferlist was invented back in 1998 (season 3 in Sweden). In those ancient days, hardly any players were sold for more than $100.000 (can you imagine?!) and a typical transfer was at $50.000. Having a minimum step of $1000 per bid was appropriate then. Today, however, many players are sold at millions. Many people have expressed that they are frustrated with endless bidding duels where one or several of the parties raise the bid with only $1000.

Now, auctions are about finding the right price, negotiating until there is exactly one buyer left willing to pay a certain price. It is not supposed to be about who can endure the longest bidding duel. Hence the new 2% rule. We do not believe this will significantly affect prices on the transfer market. It will just make the road to the final price a bit less annoying for all parties involved.

Basically we are adapting the old $1000-rule to today's prices, and making it dynamic.

Some examples of what this will mean:
* Last bid on Player A was $500.000. You must bid at least $510.000. (2% more)
* Last bid on Player B was $50.000. You must bid at least $51.000. (2% more AND also $1000 more, so $50.000 is the edge between the old system and the new).
* Last bid on Player C was $10.000. You must bid at least $11.000. ($1000 more, the old rule taking over)

We realise that you don't want to be stuck with a pocket calculator while in a bidding duel. Therefore, the suggested bid on the player page is now always 2% higher than the previous.