Defensive winger - Revision history

Dzsoo at 15:16, 17 May 2012

2012-05-17T15:16:39Z

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			{{Interwiki/Defensive winger}}
	The [[Rules#Individual Orders\|Hattrick Rules]] state that the effect of playing a [[Winger]] with Defensive orders is: Less [[wing\|Winger]], more [[Defending]]		The [[Rules#Individual Orders\|Hattrick Rules]] state that the effect of playing a [[Winger]] with Defensive orders is: Less [[wing\|Winger]], more [[Defending]]

Nightwish: more links

2009-04-29T20:26:48Z

Nightwish: links

2009-04-29T20:26:14Z

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	'''Defending:''' High defending skill is a key for this position.		'''Defending:''' High defending skill is a key for this position.

	'''Winger:''' Winger skill is still rewarded with this order, ''unlike'' [[Winger ~~Toward Middle~~]] which has the wing skill diminished significantly. The recent game engine changes have ''increased'' the effect of the wing skill of defensive wingers, while further handicapping the wing contribution of a WTM.		'''Winger:''' Winger skill is still rewarded with this order, ''unlike'' [[Winger toward middle]] which has the wing skill diminished significantly. The recent game engine changes have ''increased'' the effect of the wing skill of defensive wingers, while further handicapping the wing contribution of a WTM.

	'''Passing:''' Unlike a [[Defensive IM]], the passing of a Defensive Winger is ''not'' diminished by playing the player "defensive". Their wing skill suffers, but there is no mention in the rules about a loss of passing. This favours a Defensive Winger with high Passing.		'''Passing:''' Unlike a [[Defensive inner midfielder]], the passing of a Defensive Winger is ''not'' diminished by playing the player "defensive". Their wing skill suffers, but there is no mention in the rules about a loss of passing. This favours a Defensive Winger with high Passing.

	'''PM & Stamina:''' Just like a [[Normal ~~Winger~~]] and an [[Offensive ~~Winger~~]], a Defensive Winger contributes approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating.		'''PM & Stamina:''' Just like a [[Normal winger]] and an [[Offensive winger]], a Defensive Winger contributes approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating.


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	== Why use a Defensive Winger? ==		== Why use a Defensive Winger? ==

	* A Defensive Winger will shore up wing defence without sacrificing central defence (as with using a [[Central ~~Defender~~ toward wing\|CDTW]]). This may be particularly useful against a team with one strong wing attack and a strong central attack – if you defend on their strong wing, you still can attack from the other wing.		* A Defensive Winger will shore up wing defence without sacrificing central defence (as with using a [[Central defender toward wing\|CDTW]]). This may be particularly useful against a team with one strong wing attack and a strong central attack – if you defend on their strong wing, you still can attack from the other wing.

	* Against a team with only two good wing attacks, playing one Defensive Winger would leave only 1 "weaker" wing defence. The Defensive Winger may cut their viable attacks in half, significantly increasing your chances of winning.		* Against a team with only two good wing attacks, playing one Defensive Winger would leave only 1 "weaker" wing defence. The Defensive Winger may cut their viable attacks in half, significantly increasing your chances of winning.

Nightwish: Defensive Winger moved to Defensive winger

2009-04-29T20:00:29Z

Defensive Winger moved to Defensive winger

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Aakholop: Typo fixed

2007-03-13T13:48:13Z

Typo fixed

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	Defensive Wingers use their defence skills to help prevent wing attacks of their opponents from succeeding, while still ''retaining'' some offensive capabilities from their wing skill ~~amd~~ passing skill. Defensive wingers still contribute approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating just like normal or offensive wingers do.		Defensive Wingers use their defence skills to help prevent wing attacks of their opponents from succeeding, while still ''retaining'' some offensive capabilities from their wing skill and passing skill. Defensive wingers still contribute approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating just like normal or offensive wingers do.

	Defensive winger is not normally used as a usual positioning, but rather as a response to an opponent with unusually high wing attack ratings. An ideal Defensive Winger closely resembles a [[Wingback]] or [[Offensive Wingback]].		Defensive winger is not normally used as a usual positioning, but rather as a response to an opponent with unusually high wing attack ratings. An ideal Defensive Winger closely resembles a [[Wingback]] or [[Offensive Wingback]].

Mr Wednesday: Copy editing and change text to use actual names of skills

2006-10-02T18:38:44Z

Copy editing and change text to use actual names of skills

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	Defensive winger is not normally used as a usual positioning, but rather as a response to an opponent with unusually high wing attack ratings. An ideal Defensive Winger closely resembles a [[Wingback]] or [[Offensive Wingback]].		Defensive winger is not normally used as a usual positioning, but rather as a response to an opponent with unusually high wing attack ratings. An ideal Defensive Winger closely resembles a [[Wingback]] or [[Offensive Wingback]].

	'''~~Defence~~:''' High ~~defence~~ is a key for this position.		'''Defending:''' High defending skill is a key for this position.

	'''~~Wing~~:''' ~~Wing~~ skill is still rewarded with this order, ''unlike'' [[Winger Toward Middle]] which has the wing skill diminished ~~greatly~~. The recent game engine changes have ''increased'' the effect of the wing skill of defensive wingers, while further handicapping the wing contribution of a WTM.		'''Winger:''' Winger skill is still rewarded with this order, ''unlike'' [[Winger Toward Middle]] which has the wing skill diminished significantly. The recent game engine changes have ''increased'' the effect of the wing skill of defensive wingers, while further handicapping the wing contribution of a WTM.

	'''Passing:''' Unlike a [[Defensive IM]], the passing of a Defensive Winger is ''not'' diminished by playing the player "defensive". Their wing skill suffers, but there is no mention in the rules about a ~~loos~~ of passing. This favours a Defensive Winger with high Passing.		'''Passing:''' Unlike a [[Defensive IM]], the passing of a Defensive Winger is ''not'' diminished by playing the player "defensive". Their wing skill suffers, but there is no mention in the rules about a loss of passing. This favours a Defensive Winger with high Passing.

	'''PM & Stamina:''' Just like a [[Normal Winger]] and an [[Offensive Winger]], a Defensive Winger contributes approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating.		'''PM & Stamina:''' Just like a [[Normal Winger]] and an [[Offensive Winger]], a Defensive Winger contributes approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating.

218.175.153.251 at 15:35, 21 April 2006

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	# Wingbacks and other players suitable for the Def Winger order may become more popular and more plentiful than they are today.		# Wingbacks and other players suitable for the Def Winger order may become more popular and more plentiful than they are today.

			== Federations ==
			* [[Wing - Market & Discussion]] (1100+ members)

	[[Category:Player positions]]		[[Category:Player positions]]

Mr Wednesday: Linkified wing skill to go along with already-linkified defending skill

2006-04-06T18:32:35Z

Linkified wing skill to go along with already-linkified defending skill

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	The [[Rules#Individual Orders\|Hattrick Rules]] state that the effect of playing a [[Winger]] with Defensive orders is: Less Winger, more [[Defending]]		The [[Rules#Individual Orders\|Hattrick Rules]] state that the effect of playing a [[Winger]] with Defensive orders is: Less [[wing\|Winger]], more [[Defending]]

Mr Wednesday: Copy editing, rearranging bits, more wikifying, unified on "defence" spelling

2006-04-06T18:16:30Z

Copy editing, rearranging bits, more wikifying, unified on "defence" spelling

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	~~From rules~~: ~~Defensive~~ Less Winger, more Defending		The [[Rules#Individual Orders\|Hattrick Rules]] state that the effect of playing a [[Winger]] with Defensive orders is: Less Winger, more [[Defending]]


	Defensive Wingers use their ~~defense~~ skills to help prevent wing attacks of their opponents from succeeding, while still ''retaining'' some offensive capabilities from their wing skill amd passing skill. Defensive wingers still contribute approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating just like normal or offensive wingers do.		Defensive Wingers use their defence skills to help prevent wing attacks of their opponents from succeeding, while still ''retaining'' some offensive capabilities from their wing skill amd passing skill. Defensive wingers still contribute approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating just like normal or offensive wingers do.

	Defensive winger is not normally used as a usual positioning, but rather as a response to an opponent with unusually high wing attack ratings. An ideal Defensive Winger closely resembles a [[Wingback]] or [[Offensive Wingback]].		Defensive winger is not normally used as a usual positioning, but rather as a response to an opponent with unusually high wing attack ratings. An ideal Defensive Winger closely resembles a [[Wingback]] or [[Offensive Wingback]].

	'''~~Defense~~:''' High ~~defense~~ is a key for this position.		'''Defence:''' High defence is a key for this position.

	'''Wing:''' Wing skill is still rewarded with this order, ''unlike'' [[Winger ~~Towards~~ Middle]] which has the wing skill diminished greatly. The recent game engine changes have ''increased'' the effect of the wing skill of defensive wingers, while further handicapping the wing contribution of a WTM.		'''Wing:''' Wing skill is still rewarded with this order, ''unlike'' [[Winger Toward Middle]] which has the wing skill diminished greatly. The recent game engine changes have ''increased'' the effect of the wing skill of defensive wingers, while further handicapping the wing contribution of a WTM.

	'''Passing:''' Unlike a [[Defensive IM]], the passing of a Defensive Winger is ''not'' diminished by playing the player "defensive". Their wing skill suffers, but there is no mention in the rules about a loos of passing. This favours a Defensive Winger with high Passing.		'''Passing:''' Unlike a [[Defensive IM]], the passing of a Defensive Winger is ''not'' diminished by playing the player "defensive". Their wing skill suffers, but there is no mention in the rules about a loos of passing. This favours a Defensive Winger with high Passing.
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	- Potential for a reasonable attack ratings using a lower % of wing skill and an unchanged passing skill.		- Potential for a reasonable attack ratings using a lower % of wing skill and an unchanged passing skill.

	'''Def Winger ~~Conms~~'''		'''Def Winger Cons:'''
	- Less midfield contribution.		- Less midfield contribution.

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	== Why use a Defensive Winger? ==		== Why use a Defensive Winger? ==

	~~If you have teams with high wing attack ratings in your league,~~ Defensive Winger ~~gives you the opportunity to~~ shore-up ~~your~~ wing defence ~~with-out~~ sacrificing ~~your~~ central defence(CDTW).		* A Defensive Winger will shore up wing defence without sacrificing central defence (as with using a [[Central Defender toward wing\|CDTW]]). This may be particularly useful against a team with one strong wing attack and a strong central attack – if you defend on their strong wing, you still can attack from the other wing.

	~~AIM is the worst thing to try against such~~ a team, ~~with both teams feeding each others strengths~~.		* Against a team with only two good wing attacks, playing one Defensive Winger would leave only 1 "weaker" wing defence. The Defensive Winger may cut their viable attacks in half, significantly increasing your chances of winning.

	~~However, p~~[~~laying~~ a ~~team with only two~~ good wing ~~attacks is a prefect candidate for using a Defensive Winger. Limiting that~~ team ~~to only 1 "weaker"~~ wing ~~defense approach cuts their opportunities to score down to such a level that they become considerably beatable. By playing a Defensive Winger,~~ you ~~have cut their viable attacks by 50%~~.		[[Attack in the middle\|AIM]] is generally not a good strategy to employ against a wing-focused team, as it will weaken your wing defence even as you focus on your opponent's weaker center.

			== The Future ==

	== The ~~Future ==~~		The HT team has made modifications over the past several seasons to enhance the value of secondary skills and underused primary skills. The effect of past and anticipated future modifications may mean that there will be more Defensive Wingers plays:

	~~There~~ will be more Defensive Wingers ~~played in the future for a few reasons~~:

	1. The game engine changes have favoured wing attacks		# The recent game engine changes have favoured wing attacks
	2. The introduction of FTWs ~~will~~ mean more teams ~~concentraing~~ their attacks on the wings.		# The introduction of FTWs may mean more teams concentrating their attacks on the wings.
	3. Wingbacks and other players suitable for the Def Winger order ~~will~~ become more popular and more plentiful than they are today.		# Wingbacks and other players suitable for the Def Winger order may become more popular and more plentiful than they are today.


	[[Category:Player positions]]		[[Category:Player positions]]

Semenko1: /* The Future */

2006-04-06T07:08:28Z

The Future

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	== The Future ==		== The Future ==

	There will be more Defensive ~~Wingbacks~~ played in the future for a few reasons:		There will be more Defensive Wingers played in the future for a few reasons:

	1. The game engine changes have favoured wing attacks		1. The game engine changes have favoured wing attacks

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	Defensive Wingers use their defence skills to help prevent wing attacks of their opponents from succeeding, while still ''retaining'' some offensive capabilities from their wing skill and passing skill. Defensive wingers still contribute approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating just like normal or offensive wingers do.		Defensive Wingers use their defence skills to help prevent wing attacks of their opponents from succeeding, while still ''retaining'' some offensive capabilities from their wing skill and passing skill. Defensive wingers still contribute approx. 50% of their PM to the midfield rating just like normal or offensive wingers do.

	Defensive winger is not normally used as a usual positioning, but rather as a response to an opponent with unusually high wing attack ratings. An ideal Defensive Winger closely resembles a [[~~Wingback~~]] or [[Offensive ~~Wingback~~]].		Defensive winger is not normally used as a usual positioning, but rather as a response to an opponent with unusually high wing attack ratings. An ideal Defensive Winger closely resembles a [[Wing back]] or [[Offensive wingback]].

	'''Defending:''' High defending skill is a key for this position.		'''Defending:''' High defending skill is a key for this position.