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		<title>Mod-Karlthegreat at 05:37, 8 February 2009</title>
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  | to        = busawreck&lt;br /&gt;
  | msgid     = 12321927.285&lt;br /&gt;
  | prevmsgid = 12321927.30&lt;br /&gt;
  | datetime  = 9.1.2009 13:25&lt;br /&gt;
  | keywords  = (Probability), (Match engine)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;@all: I think the biggest problem here is that the average user doesn&amp;#039;t know much about how probabilities work. That combined with how we emotionally interpret and subjectively remember events causes a huge bias which leads to people feeling the random to be bigger than it is.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Yes, we have (as you also say in another post) a kind of educational problem and not really a problem with random.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Many users don&amp;#039;t fully understand how the basics of the match engine works, and then it&amp;#039;s of course naturally that they blame &amp;quot;random&amp;quot; when they can&amp;#039;t understand a sensational result. It&amp;#039;s a very human reaction. And after a while it&amp;#039;s easy to forget (or not see) all the normal results, but only see the sensational ones- which adds more fuel...&lt;br /&gt;
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As I mentioned in another post before the holidays we&amp;#039;ve had a need to make a match analysis tool of some kind, just because so many users fail to understand why they lost/won certain matches - and it&amp;#039;s of course not their fault that they don&amp;#039;t understand. Luck (or variance) will not cease to exist, but with a better educational (analysis) tool we would at least make people understand what happened (and perhaps what they could&amp;#039;ve done to avoid it). And naturally, it shouldn&amp;#039;t be a tool for mathematical nerds either. :)}}{{forum_message|&lt;br /&gt;
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  | to        = Catalyst2950&lt;br /&gt;
  | msgid     = 12321927.287&lt;br /&gt;
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  | datetime  = 9.1.2009 14:00&lt;br /&gt;
  | keywords  = (Probability), (Match engine)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;No, you need to fix the issue of TC, and you need to fix the mess that will happen because you thought subs would be neat to have.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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TS issue is also a reason for the random myth yes, and also needs to be fixed completely. For the subs however, I think this analysis tool also could include the detailed info needed for sub impact.}}{{forum_message|&lt;br /&gt;
  | from      = HT-Tjecken&lt;br /&gt;
  | to        = ivo_stoyanov&lt;br /&gt;
  | msgid     = 12321927.291&lt;br /&gt;
  | prevmsgid = 12321927.289&lt;br /&gt;
  | datetime  = 9.1.2009 14:07&lt;br /&gt;
  | keywords  = (Probability), (Match engine)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Also, have you done some work on it in the past season or two? I mean have you amended it in any way after fixing the extremes, which you announced a few months ago?&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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No, not more than fixing the extremes yet. We had hoped to have the rest fixed for next season, but it looks like it will need some more time.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Mod-Karlthegreat</name></author>
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