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Mod-Karlthegreat at 16:42, 30 September 2008

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	So what about your suggestion to have a way to double-check this? It's not unconceivable, of course, but then we would need to worry about THAT feature working correctly or not, and it's in fact probable that such a function would be less reliable than the training updates, which we keep very good control of.		So what about your suggestion to have a way to double-check this? It's not unconceivable, of course, but then we would need to worry about THAT feature working correctly or not, and it's in fact probable that such a function would be less reliable than the training updates, which we keep very good control of.
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	Just because it's possible to train a player to divine doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.		Just because it's possible to train a player to divine doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
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	There are also some other ideas to consider if/when we want to spice up the old training system, like for example having "bonus points" to spend in a sort of extra training. To be honest I guess we can say that right now no idea to spice up the training has been finally dismissed (well, except for the really bad ones :)) and none has been decided upon either. But personally I find the above idea quite interesting.		There are also some other ideas to consider if/when we want to spice up the old training system, like for example having "bonus points" to spend in a sort of extra training. To be honest I guess we can say that right now no idea to spice up the training has been finally dismissed (well, except for the really bad ones :)) and none has been decided upon either. But personally I find the above idea quite interesting.
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	So, it is indeed possible to get training with a 3-3-4 formation. However, it's not very likely and I wouldn't recommend it. The system is after all designed not to benefit the use of extreme formations.		So, it is indeed possible to get training with a 3-3-4 formation. However, it's not very likely and I wouldn't recommend it. The system is after all designed not to benefit the use of extreme formations.
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	Secondly, stamina drops aren't constant either as they to some extent also depend on the random factor. So, in that sense both stamina training and stamina drops are quite similar.		Secondly, stamina drops aren't constant either as they to some extent also depend on the random factor. So, in that sense both stamina training and stamina drops are quite similar.
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	In a way, yes. He will recieve two trainings, but as he hasn't played any match for the second team the amount of training will be very small the second time.		In a way, yes. He will recieve two trainings, but as he hasn't played any match for the second team the amount of training will be very small the second time.
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	No, players train at the same speed all season long.		No, players train at the same speed all season long.
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	Exactly. If the goalkeeper is also the set pieces taker he'll still only recieve 25% bonus.		Exactly. If the goalkeeper is also the set pieces taker he'll still only recieve 25% bonus.
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	If you want to maximise your training, yes. A goalkeeper who is also the set pieces taker will not recieve both bonuses, only one (25%).		If you want to maximise your training, yes. A goalkeeper who is also the set pieces taker will not recieve both bonuses, only one (25%).
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	100%. The game engine doesn't "notice" that he's on the bench, and as he has played during the week he will get 100% stamina training.		100%. The game engine doesn't "notice" that he's on the bench, and as he has played during the week he will get 100% stamina training.
	(Even if he would have get to play in the cup (substitute someone because of an injury) he would have get 100% stamina training.)		(Even if he would have get to play in the cup (substitute someone because of an injury) he would have get 100% stamina training.)
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	No.		No.
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			\| datetime = 18.9.2008 at 13:42
			\| keywords = (Training), (Training speed), (Training and economy)
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			''If you ask me, training is much, much too slow, and we have too many training spots available.''

			''Such a situation makes training all players for your own team impossible, as you've noticed yourself, and makes it absolutely necessary to buy players. However, if you don't have anything to sell because you are training multiskilled players for your own team, you don't have money to buy/replace as player prices are much too high.''

			''In the end, it comes down to this: train multiskilled and eventually lose, or train monoskilled, sell, hoard money, buy multiskilled from people who have had enough, and eventually win.''

			I'm interested in this so please elaborate.

			Why training is too slow today (economy wise or game experience wise)?

			Why do you think teams should be able to train for their own use their entire squad (..same as above...)?

			What is your defintion to multiskill and why is it X and not Y. Why is it X skills per player or Y?

			Why in all the above certain things are better than the current situation?
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			\| datetime = 19.9.2008 at 14:09
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			''In principle, yes. However, in practice you can compete well in practically all HT divisions with teams that consist essentially only of single-skilled players''

			Which are?

			Which skills make a player multi skill? Why? According to which formula? Why this formula is is the right one?

			Depending on your answers I would ask if you are sure the teams with single skill have the edge?

			I feel the discussion is not on the things you mean to discuss. Isn't it a discussion about game design? Which strategies each user prefer to be better then today? If it is why not just saying I want a game in which the best players are the ones with 4 titanic levels just because it more fun for me? Am I missing something here or is it just a question of how each user think the game will be better and more fun?

			If the above is the issue please stop those "objective" comments and use subjective ones that we can understand. The way it goes now I have no option to learn what the problem is in the eyes of specific users.

			For me, I prefer a game with a lot of choices, many strategies which are all balanced and dependent on planning, dedication and execution. I would love a game in which training your squad for your own is optional to a degree, maybe even only out of your youth pulls. There is no doubt that high price level (as it is now) is forcing training as a must. The higher the prices the higher the force to train. I think the pick of deflation made training to weak in power and had other negative side affects.
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EchoMan at 20:08, 14 July 2008

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 %. The game engine doesn't "notice" that he's on the bench, and as he has played during the week he will get 100% stamina training.
 (Even if he would have get to play in the cup (substitute someone because of an injury) he would have get 100% stamina training.)
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EchoMan at 20:06, 14 July 2008

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 If you want to maximise your training, yes. A goalkeeper who is also the set pieces taker will not recieve both bonuses, only one (25%).
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EchoMan at 19:27, 14 July 2008

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 Exactly. If the goalkeeper is also the set pieces taker he'll still only recieve 25% bonus.
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EchoMan at 19:24, 14 July 2008

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 No, players train at the same speed all season long.
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EchoMan at 11:12, 14 July 2008

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 In a way, yes. He will recieve two trainings, but as he hasn't played any match for the second team the amount of training will be very small the second time.
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EchoMan at 10:20, 14 July 2008

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 Secondly, stamina drops aren't constant either as they to some extent also depend on the random factor. So, in that sense both stamina training and stamina drops are quite similar.
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EchoMan at 09:27, 14 July 2008

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 So, it is indeed possible to get training with a 3-3-4 formation. However, it's not very likely and I wouldn't recommend it. The system is after all designed not to benefit the use of extreme formations.
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EchoMan at 09:00, 14 July 2008

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 There are also some other ideas to consider if/when we want to spice up the old training system, like for example having "bonus points" to spend in a sort of extra training. To be honest I guess we can say that right now no idea to spice up the training has been finally dismissed (well, except for the really bad ones :)) and none has been decided upon either. But personally I find the above idea quite interesting.
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EchoMan at 08:44, 14 July 2008

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 Just because it's possible to train a player to divine doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
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