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	~~{{interwiki/Sub Level}}~~		#REDIRECT [[Sub-level]]
	The '''Sub Level''' (also subskill) is a concept to talk about exact skill-values in Hattrick. Assuming that each skill is a numerical value, 1 meaning disastrous, 20 meaning divine (which actually is only a convention and no fact), there is an infinite number of possible sublevels between every two skill levels. Sub Levels appear to be rounded up, so 0.1 is already shown as disastrous; only 0.0 will result in the visible skill level non-existent.

	~~Sublevels in player abilities are usually expressed in weeks of training (excellent + 3; magnificient - 1; + 3 in playmaking) or whole skill levels (divine + 1).~~

	~~=Player Sub Levels=~~

	~~==Sub Levels in Player Abilities==~~

	If a player is trained without visible skill increase, his training is not lost. A player with a skill value of 7.0 plays only slightly worse than one with 7.1, but since the latter will appear as having a skill level of 8.0 (due to rounding), he will sell at a much higher price on the transfer market. There are managers who specialize in finding and buying players with a high sub level in order to maximize profit (see [[~~skill trading]]).~~

	There are no denominations for skills higher than 20 (divine), making higher skill levels harder to recognize. You can estimate a divine player's actual skill level by looking at his TSI and wage or by asking the current owner how long the player has been trained.

	~~===Estimating Player Sub Levels===~~

	~~Most common is the estimation of a player's sub level by keeping track of his [[training]].~~

	~~There are several tools for calculating a keeper's sub level out of his TSI and form.~~

	~~[http://www.hottrick.org/hattrick_keeper_tool.php Hottrick Keeper Tool]~~

	~~[http://keeper.hattricknippon.org/?tsi=89590&form=6 Keeper Level Prediction Tool]~~

	~~[http://www.databased.at/hattrick/x-ray/index.asp?starter=keepersup&tsi=89590&form=6 HattriX-Ray keepers-up]~~

	~~Sub levels can also be estimated by looking at the player's TSI or wage. Such estimations are less accurate because of the high number of unknown variables (8 skills + form).~~

	~~[http://www.vhattrick.com/daytrading VHO Skill Trading Extension]~~

	~~[http://www.avsoftware.org/hattrick/ SkillRaise Tool]~~

	~~[http://www.asole.org/hat_sublevel_tool.php Hattrick Transfer-List Tool]~~

	~~==Sub Levels in Form==~~

	~~When the TSI of a player rises or falls without apparent reason (injury, training, stamina-loss or aging) and without visible form change, a change in the form's sub level is most probably the cause.~~

	'''The form level excellent has no sub levels.''' A player in excellent form that is not trained, not injured and not aging does not change TSI in training updates. This information is useful for calculating the influence of training on the players' TSI or the relationship between the players' TSI and their wage, because one can eliminate one unknown variable (that of the sub level in form) from the equation.

	~~==Sub Levels in Experience==~~

	~~Knowing the sub level in experience can be important if you want to make one of your own players coach. A player with an experience of 7.6 is cheaper to be turned into a coach than one with 7.1.~~

	For price reasons, you might want to buy a player with passable (or lower) experience and 'train' him up to solid instead of buying a solid one, especially if you want a player with solid leadership. Knowing his sub level helps you in planning the season.

	~~===Estimating Sub Levels in Experience===~~

	Carlei, manager of the team SIF Bryggen, made a page with all the necessary information to either track a player's experience gain or calculate it on the basis of how much it costs to turn the player into a coach.

	~~[http://www.manager.brygge.dk/Hattrick/experience.htm Carlei's experience page]~~

	~~It is not possible to estimate the experience sub level of a player you have not owned for at least 16 weeks or tracked since his last experience increase.~~

	==Sub ~~Levels in Leadership==~~

	~~>>please note that as of 05/05/2008 it was reveled by HT team that clowns do not have any influence on team spirit and that it is just a myth<<~~

	~~The player with the highest leadership in a team is considered the [[team leader]] and has an effect on the [[team spirit]].~~

	If several players have the same visible leadership, the sub level will determine who is the team leader. There is no known test to find out which player has the highest leadership sub level, so the only safe way to make sure that a [[clown]] is also the team leader is to have no other players with solid leadership.

	~~=Team~~-~~related Sub Levels=~~

	~~==Sub Levels in Team Ratings==~~

	~~In team ratings, an approximation of the sub~~ level ~~is shown in order to give a more detailed insight into the team's performance.~~

	~~<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">~~
	~~<tr><td>very low: </td><td align="right">x.0 - x.24</td></tr>~~
	~~<tr><td>low:</td><td align="right">x.25 - x.49</td></tr>~~
	~~<tr><td>high:</td><td align="right">x.5 - x.74</td></tr>~~
	~~<tr><td>very high:  </td><td align="right">x.75 - x.99</td></tr>~~
	~~</table>~~

	~~Skill levels above "divine (very high)" are invisible.~~

	~~Many [[Helper Applications\|manager assistants and web site tools]] contain tools to predict the team ratings. Since they are all based on experimental values, they are mostly inaccurate .~~


	~~=to do=~~

	~~Team spirit, confidence, sponsor mood, youth squad, fan mood - to add any knowledge.~~

	~~[[Category:Game Concepts~~]]

Groton: Added the information that also "web site tools" predict team ratings, and removed a left over (and biased) web link.

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Added the information that also "web site tools" predict team ratings, and removed a left over (and biased) web link.

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	Skill levels above "divine (very high)" are invisible.		Skill levels above "divine (very high)" are invisible.

	Many [[Helper Applications\|manager assistants]] contain tools to predict the team ratings. Since they are all based on experimental values, they are mostly inaccurate.		Many [[Helper Applications\|manager assistants and web site tools]] contain tools to predict the team ratings. Since they are all based on experimental values, they are mostly inaccurate .

	~~[http://www.lokesoftware.dk/ham/ Hattrick Assistant Manager]~~

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			{{interwiki/Sub Level}}
	The '''Sub Level''' (also subskill) is a concept to talk about exact skill-values in Hattrick. Assuming that each skill is a numerical value, 1 meaning disastrous, 20 meaning divine (which actually is only a convention and no fact), there is an infinite number of possible sublevels between every two skill levels. Sub Levels appear to be rounded up, so 0.1 is already shown as disastrous; only 0.0 will result in the visible skill level non-existent.		The '''Sub Level''' (also subskill) is a concept to talk about exact skill-values in Hattrick. Assuming that each skill is a numerical value, 1 meaning disastrous, 20 meaning divine (which actually is only a convention and no fact), there is an infinite number of possible sublevels between every two skill levels. Sub Levels appear to be rounded up, so 0.1 is already shown as disastrous; only 0.0 will result in the visible skill level non-existent.

Dziuggy: /* Sub Levels in Leadership */

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Sub Levels in Leadership

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	==Sub Levels in Leadership==		==Sub Levels in Leadership==

			>>please note that as of 05/05/2008 it was reveled by HT team that clowns do not have any influence on team spirit and that it is just a myth<<

	The player with the highest leadership in a team is considered the [[team leader]] and has an effect on the [[team spirit]].		The player with the highest leadership in a team is considered the [[team leader]] and has an effect on the [[team spirit]].

	If several players have the same visible leadership, the sub level will determine who is the team leader. There is no known test to find out which player has the highest leadership sub level, so the only safe way to make sure that a [[clown]] is also the team leader is to have no other players with solid leadership.		If several players have the same visible leadership, the sub level will determine who is the team leader. There is no known test to find out which player has the highest leadership sub level, so the only safe way to make sure that a [[clown]] is also the team leader is to have no other players with solid leadership.


	=Team-related Sub Levels=		=Team-related Sub Levels=

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	Team spirit, confidence, sponsor mood, youth squad, fan mood - ~~feghkghghjktyv~~ to add any knowledge.		Team spirit, confidence, sponsor mood, youth squad, fan mood - to add any knowledge.

	[[Category:Game Concepts]]		[[Category:Game Concepts]]

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	Team spirit, confidence, sponsor mood, youth squad, fan mood - ~~feel free~~ to add any knowledge.		Team spirit, confidence, sponsor mood, youth squad, fan mood - feghkghghjktyv to add any knowledge.

	[[Category:Game Concepts]]		[[Category:Game Concepts]]

Laola at 19:42, 16 March 2007

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	'''The form level excellent has no sub levels.''' A player in excellent form that is not trained, not injured and not aging does not change TSI in training updates. This information is useful for calculating the influence of training on the players' TSI or the relationship between the players' TSI and their wage, because one can eliminate one unknown variable (that of the sub level in form) from the equation.		'''The form level excellent has no sub levels.''' A player in excellent form that is not trained, not injured and not aging does not change TSI in training updates. This information is useful for calculating the influence of training on the players' TSI or the relationship between the players' TSI and their wage, because one can eliminate one unknown variable (that of the sub level in form) from the equation.

	==Sub ~~Level~~ in Experience==		==Sub Levels in Experience==

	Knowing the sub level in experience can be important if you want to make one of your own players coach. A player with an experience of 7.6 is cheaper to be turned into a coach than one with 7.1.		Knowing the sub level in experience can be important if you want to make one of your own players coach. A player with an experience of 7.6 is cheaper to be turned into a coach than one with 7.1.
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	It is not possible to estimate the experience sub level of a player you have not owned for at least 16 weeks or tracked since his last experience increase.		It is not possible to estimate the experience sub level of a player you have not owned for at least 16 weeks or tracked since his last experience increase.

	=Sub Levels in Team Ratings=		==Sub Levels in Leadership==

			The player with the highest leadership in a team is considered the [[team leader]] and has an effect on the [[team spirit]].

			If several players have the same visible leadership, the sub level will determine who is the team leader. There is no known test to find out which player has the highest leadership sub level, so the only safe way to make sure that a [[clown]] is also the team leader is to have no other players with solid leadership.


			=Team-related Sub Levels=

			==Sub Levels in Team Ratings==

	In team ratings, an approximation of the sub level is shown in order to give a more detailed insight into the team's performance.		In team ratings, an approximation of the sub level is shown in order to give a more detailed insight into the team's performance.
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	[http://www.lokesoftware.dk/ham/ Hattrick Assistant Manager]		[http://www.lokesoftware.dk/ham/ Hattrick Assistant Manager]

	~~==to do==~~

	Team spirit, confidence, ~~leadership~~, youth squad~~, sponsor mood~~, fan mood - feel free to add any knowledge.		=to do=

			Team spirit, confidence, sponsor mood, youth squad, fan mood - feel free to add any knowledge.

	[[Category:Game Concepts]]		[[Category:Game Concepts]]

87.126.136.160: /* Estimating Player Sub Levels */

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Estimating Player Sub Levels

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	Sub levels can also be estimated by looking at the player's TSI or wage. Such estimations are less accurate because of the high number of unknown variables (8 skills + form).		Sub levels can also be estimated by looking at the player's TSI or wage. Such estimations are less accurate because of the high number of unknown variables (8 skills + form).

			[http://www.vhattrick.com/daytrading VHO Skill Trading Extension]

	[http://www.avsoftware.org/hattrick/ SkillRaise Tool]		[http://www.avsoftware.org/hattrick/ SkillRaise Tool]

Mr Wednesday: /* Sub Levels in Team Ratings */ Table formatting

2006-10-11T22:38:11Z

Sub Levels in Team Ratings: Table formatting

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	In team ratings, an approximation of the sub level is shown in order to give a more detailed insight into the team's performance.		In team ratings, an approximation of the sub level is shown in order to give a more detailed insight into the team's performance.

	<table ~~width="150"~~ border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">		<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
	<tr><td>very low: </td><td>x.0 - x.24</td></tr>		<tr><td>very low: </td><td align="right">x.0 - x.24</td></tr>
	<tr><td>low:</td><td>x.25 - x.49</td></tr>		<tr><td>low:</td><td align="right">x.25 - x.49</td></tr>
	<tr><td>high:</td><td>x.5 - x.74</td></tr>		<tr><td>high:</td><td align="right">x.5 - x.74</td></tr>
	<tr><td>very high:</td><td>x.75 - x.99</td></tr>		<tr><td>very high:  </td><td align="right">x.75 - x.99</td></tr>
	</table>		</table>

Laola: more accurate information concerning re-introduction of non-existent; cosmetic changes

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	The '''Sub Level''' (also subskill) is a concept to talk about exact skill-values in Hattrick. Assuming that each skill is a numerical value, 1 meaning disastrous, 20 meaning divine (which actually is only a convention and no fact), there is an infinite number of possible sublevels between every two skill levels.		The '''Sub Level''' (also subskill) is a concept to talk about exact skill-values in Hattrick. Assuming that each skill is a numerical value, 1 meaning disastrous, 20 meaning divine (which actually is only a convention and no fact), there is an infinite number of possible sublevels between every two skill levels. Sub Levels appear to be rounded up, so 0.1 is already shown as disastrous; only 0.0 will result in the visible skill level non-existent.

	Sublevels in player abilities are ~~normally~~ expressed in weeks of training (excellent + 3; magnificient - 1; + 3 in playmaking) or whole ~~skills~~ (divine + 1).		Sublevels in player abilities are usually expressed in weeks of training (excellent + 3; magnificient - 1; + 3 in playmaking) or whole skill levels (divine + 1).

	=Player ~~sublevels~~=		=Player Sub Levels=

	==~~Sublevels~~ in ~~player abilities~~==		==Sub Levels in Player Abilities==

	If a player is trained without visible skill increase, his training is not lost. A player with a skill value of 7.99 plays only slightly worse than one with 8.0, but he will ~~in most cases be sold at the same price~~ as a ~~player with the~~ skill ~~value 7~~.0 on the transfer market. There are managers who specialize on finding and buying players with a high ~~subskill~~ in order to maximize profit (see [[skill trading]]).		If a player is trained without visible skill increase, his training is not lost. A player with a skill value of 7.0 plays only slightly worse than one with 7.1, but since the latter will appear as having a skill level of 8.0 (due to rounding), he will sell at a much higher price on the transfer market. There are managers who specialize in finding and buying players with a high sub level in order to maximize profit (see [[skill trading]]).

	There are no denominations for ~~players with~~ skills higher than divine~~. A player with the~~ skill ~~value 24 would thus still be shown as a divine player~~. You can estimate a divine player's actual skill level by looking at his TSI and wage or by asking the ~~manager who trains him~~ how long the player ~~was~~ trained.		There are no denominations for skills higher than 20 (divine), making higher skill levels harder to recognize. You can estimate a divine player's actual skill level by looking at his TSI and wage or by asking the current owner how long the player has been trained.

	===Estimating ~~player sublevels~~===		===Estimating Player Sub Levels===

	Most common is the estimation of a player's ~~sublevel~~ by keeping track of his [[training]]~~. Please consult this page for more information about training speed~~.		Most common is the estimation of a player's sub level by keeping track of his [[training]].

	There are several tools for calculating a keeper's ~~sublevel~~ out of his TSI and form.		There are several tools for calculating a keeper's sub level out of his TSI and form.

	[http://www.hottrick.org/hattrick_keeper_tool.php Hottrick Keeper Tool]		[http://www.hottrick.org/hattrick_keeper_tool.php Hottrick Keeper Tool]
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	[http://www.databased.at/hattrick/x-ray/index.asp?starter=keepersup&tsi=89590&form=6 HattriX-Ray keepers-up]		[http://www.databased.at/hattrick/x-ray/index.asp?starter=keepersup&tsi=89590&form=6 HattriX-Ray keepers-up]

	~~Subskills~~ can also be estimated by looking at the player's TSI or wage. Such estimations are less accurate because of the high number of unknown variables (8 skills + form).		Sub levels can also be estimated by looking at the player's TSI or wage. Such estimations are less accurate because of the high number of unknown variables (8 skills + form).

	[http://www.avsoftware.org/hattrick/ SkillRaise Tool]		[http://www.avsoftware.org/hattrick/ SkillRaise Tool]
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	[http://www.asole.org/hat_sublevel_tool.php Hattrick Transfer-List Tool]		[http://www.asole.org/hat_sublevel_tool.php Hattrick Transfer-List Tool]

	==~~Sublevels~~ in ~~form~~==		==Sub Levels in Form==

	When the TSI of a player rises or falls without apparent reason (injury, training or aging) and without visible form change, a change in the form's sub-level is probably the cause.		When the TSI of a player rises or falls without apparent reason (injury, training, stamina-loss or aging) and without visible form change, a change in the form's sub level is most probably the cause.

	'''The form level excellent has no sub-levels.''' A player in excellent form that is not trained, not injured and not aging does not change TSI in training updates. This information is useful for calculating the influence of training on the players' TSI or the relationship between the players' TSI an their wage, because one can eliminate one unknown variable (that of the ~~form~~ sub-level) from the equation.		'''The form level excellent has no sub levels.''' A player in excellent form that is not trained, not injured and not aging does not change TSI in training updates. This information is useful for calculating the influence of training on the players' TSI or the relationship between the players' TSI and their wage, because one can eliminate one unknown variable (that of the sub level in form) from the equation.

	==~~Sublevel~~ in ~~experience~~==		==Sub Level in Experience==

	~~To know~~ the ~~sublevel~~ in experience ~~becomes~~ important if you want to make one of your own players coach. A player with an experience of 7.6 is cheaper to be turned into a coach than one with 7.1.		Knowing the sub level in experience can be important if you want to make one of your own players coach. A player with an experience of 7.6 is cheaper to be turned into a coach than one with 7.1.

	For price reasons, you might want to buy a player with passable (or lower) experience and 'train' him up to solid instead of buying a solid one, especially if you want a player with solid leadership. Knowing his ~~sublevel~~ helps you in planning the season.		For price reasons, you might want to buy a player with passable (or lower) experience and 'train' him up to solid instead of buying a solid one, especially if you want a player with solid leadership. Knowing his sub level helps you in planning the season.

	===Estimating ~~sublevels~~ in ~~experience~~===		===Estimating Sub Levels in Experience===

	Carlei, manager of the team SIF Bryggen, made a page with all the necessary information to either track a player's experience gain or calculate it on the basis of how much it costs to turn the player into a coach.		Carlei, manager of the team SIF Bryggen, made a page with all the necessary information to either track a player's experience gain or calculate it on the basis of how much it costs to turn the player into a coach.
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	[http://www.manager.brygge.dk/Hattrick/experience.htm Carlei's experience page]		[http://www.manager.brygge.dk/Hattrick/experience.htm Carlei's experience page]

	It is not possible to estimate the experience sub-level of a player you have not owned for at least 16 weeks or tracked since his last experience increase.		It is not possible to estimate the experience sub level of a player you have not owned for at least 16 weeks or tracked since his last experience increase.

	=~~Sublevels~~ in ~~team ratings~~=		=Sub Levels in Team Ratings=

	In team ratings, an approximation of the sub-level is shown in order to give a more detailed insight into the team's performance.		In team ratings, an approximation of the sub level is shown in order to give a more detailed insight into the team's performance.

	<table width="150" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">		<table width="150" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">