Talk:Training - Revision history

Rhapsodysvs: /* Expensive in long term */

2009-06-12T09:43:21Z

Expensive in long term

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	That was a great post to read. No, it is not unfortunately. Apparently two USA users trained two keepers (seperately - one each) from solid to divine. They say they both popped together until the last level when one popped a week before the other. This seems like a shaky tale at best and doesn't explain possible sub level differences at the start. The whole solid-divine week rule seems to be a rumor that started several years ago, as no one can provide any proof for it.		That was a great post to read. No, it does not seem to be, unfortunately. Apparently two USA users trained two keepers (seperately - one each) from solid to divine. They say they both popped together until the last level when one popped a week before the other. This seems like a shaky tale at best and doesn't explain possible sub level differences at the start. The whole solid-divine week rule seems to be a rumor that started several years ago, as no one can provide any proof for it.

	The 50% rule and square root rule both have little proof as well. What needs to be done is a long study starting with comparing 0 coaches to 1, then 1 to 2, etc. This can be done with solid coaches and a player starting at a skill level of nonexistant (to avoid sublevel problems that you get when starting at a level like solid). If anyone is interested in really starting this, let me know through an ingame message to Rhapsodysvs.		The 50% rule and square root rule both have little proof as well. What needs to be done is a long study starting with comparing 0 coaches to 1, then 1 to 2, etc. This can be done with solid coaches and a player starting at a skill level of nonexistant (to avoid sublevel problems that you get when starting at a level like solid). If anyone is interested in really starting this, let me know through an ingame message to Rhapsodysvs.

	Of course, the form effects from assistant coaches can probably never be quantified.		Of course, the form effects from assistant coaches can probably never be quantified.
			--[[User:Rhapsodysvs\|Rhapsodysvs]] 09:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
	- ~~Rhap~~

	== Specialists ==		== Specialists ==

Rhapsodysvs: /* Expensive in long term */

2009-06-12T09:09:12Z

Expensive in long term

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	That was a great post to read. No, it is not unfortunately. Apparently two USA users trained two keepers (seperately - one each) from solid to divine. They say they both popped together until the last level when one popped a week before the other. This seems like a shaky tale at best and doesn't explain possible sub level differences at the start. The whole solid-divine week rule seems to be a rumor that started several years ago, as no one can provide any proof for it.		That was a great post to read. No, it is not unfortunately. Apparently two USA users trained two keepers (seperately - one each) from solid to divine. They say they both popped together until the last level when one popped a week before the other. This seems like a shaky tale at best and doesn't explain possible sub level differences at the start. The whole solid-divine week rule seems to be a rumor that started several years ago, as no one can provide any proof for it.

	The 50% rule and square root rule both have little proof as well. What needs to be done is a long study starting with comparing 0 coaches to 1, then 1 to 2, etc. This can be done with solid coaches and a player starting at a skill level of nonexistant (to avoid sublevel problems that you get when starting at a level like solid). If anyone is interested in really starting this, let me know through an ingame message - ~~Rhapsodysvs~~		The 50% rule and square root rule both have little proof as well. What needs to be done is a long study starting with comparing 0 coaches to 1, then 1 to 2, etc. This can be done with solid coaches and a player starting at a skill level of nonexistant (to avoid sublevel problems that you get when starting at a level like solid). If anyone is interested in really starting this, let me know through an ingame message to Rhapsodysvs.

			Of course, the form effects from assistant coaches can probably never be quantified.

			- Rhap

	== Specialists ==		== Specialists ==

Rhapsodysvs: /* Expensive in long term */

2009-06-12T09:07:34Z

Expensive in long term

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	Is at least this one week difference from solid to divine keeper confirmed by someone?		Is at least this one week difference from solid to divine keeper confirmed by someone?

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			That was a great post to read. No, it is not unfortunately. Apparently two USA users trained two keepers (seperately - one each) from solid to divine. They say they both popped together until the last level when one popped a week before the other. This seems like a shaky tale at best and doesn't explain possible sub level differences at the start. The whole solid-divine week rule seems to be a rumor that started several years ago, as no one can provide any proof for it.

			The 50% rule and square root rule both have little proof as well. What needs to be done is a long study starting with comparing 0 coaches to 1, then 1 to 2, etc. This can be done with solid coaches and a player starting at a skill level of nonexistant (to avoid sublevel problems that you get when starting at a level like solid). If anyone is interested in really starting this, let me know through an ingame message - Rhapsodysvs

	== Specialists ==		== Specialists ==

Flattermann: New Trainingspeed Values

2009-02-03T00:33:03Z

New Trainingspeed Values

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	The speed table says 6.5 weeks for both scoring and playmaking. In my opinion it's more 7 for playmaking and 6 for scoring. Anyone else having an opinion on this? --[[User:Mod-Karlthegreat\|Mod-Karlthegreat]] 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)		The speed table says 6.5 weeks for both scoring and playmaking. In my opinion it's more 7 for playmaking and 6 for scoring. Anyone else having an opinion on this? --[[User:Mod-Karlthegreat\|Mod-Karlthegreat]] 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

			== New Trainingspeed Values ==

			I've added the values of my training speed formula Excel sheet to the wiki.
			[http://www.flattermann.net/downloads TrainingspeedFormula.xls]

			They seem to be pretty correct, but feel free to revert my changes or edit the values that you don't like... :-)
			--[[User:Flattermann\|Flattermann]] 00:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Jhattara: Reverted edit of Trc4tVicor, changed back to last version by Mod-Karlthegreat

2008-12-18T06:52:49Z

Reverted edit of Trc4tVicor, changed back to last version by Mod-Karlthegreat

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	I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however shooting says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense and each type of training corresponds with Hattrick positions not real world soccer knowledge that not all players have! -- Unsigned edit added by anon user 68.117.134.179 on 7 May 2007		I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however shooting says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense and each type of training corresponds with Hattrick positions not real world soccer knowledge that not all players have! -- Unsigned edit added by anon user 68.117.134.179 on 7 May 2007

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	1 = 100% 2 = 50% 3 = 25% 4 = 12.5% 5 = 6.25% 6 = 3.125% 7 = 1.5625% 8 = 0.78125% 9 = 0.390625% 10 = 0.1953125%		1 = 100% 2 = 50% 3 = 25% 4 = 12.5% 5 = 6.25% 6 = 3.125% 7 = 1.5625% 8 = 0.78125% 9 = 0.390625% 10 = 0.1953125%

	~~ShouldnÂ´t~~ it start with 50% as more then 100% is not possible. You then get this:		Shouldn´t it start with 50% as more then 100% is not possible. You then get this:

	1 = 50% 2 = 25% 3 = 12.5% 4 = 6.25% 5 = 3.125% 6 = 1.5625% 7 = 0.78125% 8 = 0.390625% 9 = 0.1953125% 10 = 0.09765625.		1 = 50% 2 = 25% 3 = 12.5% 4 = 6.25% 5 = 3.125% 6 = 1.5625% 7 = 0.78125% 8 = 0.390625% 9 = 0.1953125% 10 = 0.09765625.

Trc4tVicor: monboccavara

2008-12-18T00:05:27Z

monboccavara

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			daracbocor
	I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however shooting says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense and each type of training corresponds with Hattrick positions not real world soccer knowledge that not all players have! -- Unsigned edit added by anon user 68.117.134.179 on 7 May 2007		I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however shooting says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense and each type of training corresponds with Hattrick positions not real world soccer knowledge that not all players have! -- Unsigned edit added by anon user 68.117.134.179 on 7 May 2007

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	1 = 100% 2 = 50% 3 = 25% 4 = 12.5% 5 = 6.25% 6 = 3.125% 7 = 1.5625% 8 = 0.78125% 9 = 0.390625% 10 = 0.1953125%		1 = 100% 2 = 50% 3 = 25% 4 = 12.5% 5 = 6.25% 6 = 3.125% 7 = 1.5625% 8 = 0.78125% 9 = 0.390625% 10 = 0.1953125%

	~~Shouldn´t~~ it start with 50% as more then 100% is not possible. You then get this:		ShouldnÂ´t it start with 50% as more then 100% is not possible. You then get this:

	1 = 50% 2 = 25% 3 = 12.5% 4 = 6.25% 5 = 3.125% 6 = 1.5625% 7 = 0.78125% 8 = 0.390625% 9 = 0.1953125% 10 = 0.09765625.		1 = 50% 2 = 25% 3 = 12.5% 4 = 6.25% 5 = 3.125% 6 = 1.5625% 7 = 0.78125% 8 = 0.390625% 9 = 0.1953125% 10 = 0.09765625.

Mod-Karlthegreat: Training speed

2007-10-03T22:14:19Z

Training speed

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	: The original formulation makes perfect sense relative to the performance of a single assistant, where it certainly is possible to get more than 100%. In fact, if there were not declining contribution, then 10 assistants would give you 1000% of the contribution of one assistant. --[[User:Mr Wednesday\|Mr Wednesday]] 18:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)		: The original formulation makes perfect sense relative to the performance of a single assistant, where it certainly is possible to get more than 100%. In fact, if there were not declining contribution, then 10 assistants would give you 1000% of the contribution of one assistant. --[[User:Mr Wednesday\|Mr Wednesday]] 18:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

			== Training speed ==

			The speed table says 6.5 weeks for both scoring and playmaking. In my opinion it's more 7 for playmaking and 6 for scoring. Anyone else having an opinion on this? --[[User:Mod-Karlthegreat\|Mod-Karlthegreat]] 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Mr Wednesday: Add an attribution for the previous pair of edits.

2007-05-07T23:26:13Z

Add an attribution for the previous pair of edits.

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	I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however shooting says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense and each type of training corresponds with Hattrick positions not real world soccer knowledge that not all players have!		I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however shooting says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense and each type of training corresponds with Hattrick positions not real world soccer knowledge that not all players have! -- Unsigned edit added by anon user 68.117.134.179 on 7 May 2007

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68.117.134.179 at 23:07, 7 May 2007

2007-05-07T23:07:44Z

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	I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however ~~one of them~~ says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense!		I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however shooting says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense and each type of training corresponds with Hattrick positions not real world soccer knowledge that not all players have!

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68.117.134.179 at 23:06, 7 May 2007

2007-05-07T23:06:28Z

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			I'm trying to decide whether to train scoring or shooting, however one of them says it trains "outfielders", outfielders isn't a position in Hattrick. Please correct this so that the training page makes sense!

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	I have added when to cash in, and also a minor change to general, as general (although very minimally) does train keepers		I have added when to cash in, and also a minor change to general, as general (although very minimally) does train keepers