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==Overview==
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Every [[team]] needs an '''arena''' where they can play their home [[match]]es. Your job is to build your arena as big as needed, but not to build it too big, because you must pay every week to keep your arena in shape. There are four types of stands:
 
 
Every team needs an arena where they can play their home matches. Your job is to build your arena as big as needed, but not to build it too big, because you must pay every week to keep your arena in shape. There are four types of stands:
 
 
* Terraces (most spectators will use terraces, so you need more these than seats);  
 
* Terraces (most spectators will use terraces, so you need more these than seats);  
 
* Regular seats (spectators who want some comfort when watching games buy regular seats, these are the second most used, so build these a lot too);  
 
* Regular seats (spectators who want some comfort when watching games buy regular seats, these are the second most used, so build these a lot too);  
* Seats under the roof (these are for people who want to a see match as comfortably as possible. Still, relatively a lot of spectators buys tickets for these seats);  
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* Seats under the roof (these are for people who want to a see match as comfortably as possible. Still, relatively a lot of spectators buys tickets for these seats, even more of these will be sold during bad weather);  
 
* Seats in VIP lounge (only important spectators like sponsors use these seats, thus,you need to build only a few of these)
 
* Seats in VIP lounge (only important spectators like sponsors use these seats, thus,you need to build only a few of these)
  
===Default distribution===
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== Default distribution ==
 
 
 
{| width="170px" border="0"
 
{| width="170px" border="0"
 
| '''Total capacity:''' || align=right| '''12000'''
 
| '''Total capacity:''' || align=right| '''12000'''
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| Seats in VIP boxes: || align=right| 0
 
| Seats in VIP boxes: || align=right| 0
 
|}
 
|}
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This wasn't always the default distribution. People starting at the beginning of 2004 or earlier had less places in their stadium, bots still have this distribution nowadays (5000 terraces and 2000 basic seating places).
  
===Income per seat===
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== Income per seat ==
 
 
 
{| border="0"
 
{| border="0"
| Terraces: || align=right| 6.5 [[€]]
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| Terraces: || align=right| 7 [[€]]
 
|-
 
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| Basic seating: || align=right| 9.5 [[€]]
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| Basic seating: || align=right| 10 [[€]]
 
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| Seats under roof: || align=right| 18 [[€]]
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| Seats under roof: || align=right| 19 [[€]]
 
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| Seats in VIP boxes: || align=right| 32.5 [[€]]
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| Seats in VIP boxes: || align=right| 35 [[€]]
 
|}
 
|}
  
===Weekly upkeep costs===
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== Weekly upkeep costs ==
 
{| border="0"
 
{| border="0"
 
| Terraces: || align=right| 0.5 [[€]]
 
| Terraces: || align=right| 0.5 [[€]]
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|}
 
|}
  
==How to build==
 
  
===Costs of expansion===
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== How to build ==
  
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=== Costs of expansion ===
 
{| border="0"
 
{| border="0"
 
| Terraces: || align=right| 45 [[€]]
 
| Terraces: || align=right| 45 [[€]]
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| Seats in VIP boxes: || align=right| 300 [[€]]
 
| Seats in VIP boxes: || align=right| 300 [[€]]
 
|}
 
|}
 
 
There is also an additional fee of 10,000 [[€]] every time you expand or reduce, no matter how many seats you add or reduce.
 
There is also an additional fee of 10,000 [[€]] every time you expand or reduce, no matter how many seats you add or reduce.
  
===Weekly benefit per seat (estimation*)===
 
  
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=== Weekly benefit per seat (estimation*) ===
 
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{| border="0"
 
! !!width=80| 8 matches !!width=80| 7 matches
 
! !!width=80| 8 matches !!width=80| 7 matches
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(*) Estimation based on a full stadium at home for 8 or 7 weeks for each 16 week period.
 
(*) Estimation based on a full stadium at home for 8 or 7 weeks for each 16 week period.
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=== Stadium Expansion Theories ===
 
=== Stadium Expansion Theories ===
{{based_on_opinion}}
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{{based_on_research}}
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Attendees will come to your matches with the desire of a certain seat category. I.e. a given portion of the potential attendees will fill terraces and others basic seats, seats under roof and VIP seats. If a seat of the given category is not available (i.e. the category is filled), the potential attendee will not buy another category.
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Hence, when building your arena, you should build it with a certain category ratio. Unfortunately the ratio is dependent on supporter mood. I.e. in order to build the optimum arena, you should give your best prediction of your future (short term) fan mood. The dependency of the ratio on fan mood was published in [http://brun.dk/hattrick/index.php?content=17&lang=english The Optimum Stadium Study] performed by danish federation [http://brun.dk/hattrick/index.php Statistikforbundet] with a background of more than 600 verified data sets collected through their webpage. After finding the relationships between fan mood, category ratios and attendance, the study calculated an arena size (denoted per fan), where the probability of filling the last one build seat equals the usual expected ratio between ticket price and maintenance cost.
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At the moment no helper applications have implemented the new ratios, which are a bit more complicated than the earlier ones due to the fan mood dependency (introduces in hattrick season 35), but they are recapitulated below in ''arena size per fan''.
  
When building your arena you might want to use one of the [[Helper_Applications|helper applications]] to get the arena done with the right amount of seats. Alternatively, you can use a proportion of seats somewhere near:
 
 
{|
 
{|
| Terraces:||align="right"|62.5%
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| '''Fan mood'''|||'''Terraces''' |||'''Basic Seats''' |||'''Seats under roof''' |||'''VIP seats''' |||'''Total'''
 
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| Basic seating:||align="right"|25%
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| furious|||7.852 |||2.341 |||1.234 |||0.104 |||11.53
 
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| Seats under roof:||align="right"|10%
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| angry|||8.415 |||2.729 |||1.768 |||0.179 |||13.09
 
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| VIP boxes:||align="right"|2.5%
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| irritated|||9.087 |||3.097 |||2.213 |||0.240 |||14.63
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|-
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| disappointed|||9.797 |||3.457 |||2.628 |||0.297 |||16.17
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|-
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| calm|||10.52 |||3.814 |||3.034 |||0.352 |||17.72
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|-
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| content|||11.26 |||4.170 |||3.437 |||0.406 |||19.27
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|-
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| satisfied|||12.00 |||4.526 |||3.841 |||0.460 |||20.83
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|-
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| delirious|||12.74 |||4.882 |||4.247 |||0.514 |||22.39
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|-
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| high on life|||13.49 |||5.238 |||4.657 |||0.568 |||23.95
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|-
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| dancing in the streets|||14.23 |||5.594 |||5.069 |||0.623 |||25.52
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|-
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| Sending love poems to you|||14.98 |||5.951 |||5.485 |||0.678 |||27.09
 
|}
 
|}
  
These figures are good to start with, because they give you a rough estimation to start with. For further expansion you can calculate these proportions yourself, but be careful not to base your proportion on the average mentioned at the supporter statistics. When your stadium is full regularly, this average will get pulled towards the proportions your stadium setup has NOW. So base your proportions on all the games where none of the types of seats were full, and calculate the average from these figures. This will give you a proportion that is probably good for your supporters, in your division. Be careful because these proportions vary with weather, meaning you can put a few more terraces and basic seats. A seat must be used a minimum of once each 10 weeks to be profitable. Of course, you can leave this to dusty number crunchers and just stick to good ol' 62,5-25-10-2,5 which won't be that far off.
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Notice that these figures can be seen as "the maximum arena with all seats generating profit over time". However, it is quite aggressive for new and/or poor teams, since the payback rate of the last seats are very low. Instead one might use the ratios given below and build a smaller stadium more suitable to the economics of the given team.
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{|
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| '''Fan mood'''|||'''Terraces''' |||'''Basic Seats''' |||'''Seats under roof''' |||'''VIP seats''' |||'''Total'''
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|furious|||68.10% |||20.30% |||10.70% |||0.90% |||11.53
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|-
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|angry|||64.28% |||20.85% |||13.51% |||1.36% |||13.09
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|-
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|irritated|||62.09% |||21.16% |||15.12% |||1.64% |||14.63
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|disappointed|||60.55% |||21.37% |||16.25% |||1.83% |||16.17
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|calm|||59.38% |||21.52% |||17.12% |||1.98% |||17.72
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|content|||58.43% |||21.64% |||17.83% |||2.11% |||19.27
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|satisfied|||57.62% |||21.73% |||18.44% |||2.21% |||20.83
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|delirious|||56.93% |||21.80% |||18.97% |||2.30% |||22.39
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|high on life|||56.32% |||21.86% |||19.44% |||2.37% |||23.95
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|dancing in the streets|||55.78% |||21.92% |||19.86% |||2.44% |||25.52
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|Sending love poems to you|||55.29% |||21.96% |||20.24% |||2.50% |||27.09
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|}
  
 
Your stadium is an expensive long-term investment, which will take around two seasons to pay for itself at best. It is generally better to improve your stadium in small steps (say 2,000 to 4,000), and only if you will be able to fill those additional places in the majority of your up-coming matches.
 
Your stadium is an expensive long-term investment, which will take around two seasons to pay for itself at best. It is generally better to improve your stadium in small steps (say 2,000 to 4,000), and only if you will be able to fill those additional places in the majority of your up-coming matches.
 
Teams on a bad run may not see home crowds anything as good as the 20x fan-club indicator mentioned often in guides. Your home crowds for league/cup games can be as low as 10x or 15x fan club size if you and your opponent are in low league positions and on bad runs and the weather is poor. This is particularly the case if you are in a low division populated by inactive teams.  The often-mentioned upper indicator of 30x fan-club size is much more accurate for successful teams in the upper divisions, where all teams are likely to have large fan clubs, so that the away-team portion of attendance is fully populated.
 
  
 
=== Notes ===  
 
=== Notes ===  
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* When budgeting for arena expansions remember that you may not take more than 500 000 [[€]] debt.
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* Statistikforbundet is still collecting numbers in order to verify and improve the numbers. Data can be submitted [http://brun.dk/hattrick/index.php?content=15&lang=english here].
  
* When budgeting for arena expansions remember that you may not take more than 500 000 [[]] debt.
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== See Also ==
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[[HTs on Global/Arena]]
  
[[Category: Game Concepts]]
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== External Links ==
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* [http://uik.somee.com/htarena HT-Arena - the calculator]
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* [http://drecons.googlepages.com/stadium Stadium Project Sheet]
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* [http://iht.smdesign.es/node/146 Budget Arena Calculator]
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[[Category:Economy]]

Latest revision as of 11:21, 3 July 2015

Every team needs an arena where they can play their home matches. Your job is to build your arena as big as needed, but not to build it too big, because you must pay every week to keep your arena in shape. There are four types of stands:

  • Terraces (most spectators will use terraces, so you need more these than seats);
  • Regular seats (spectators who want some comfort when watching games buy regular seats, these are the second most used, so build these a lot too);
  • Seats under the roof (these are for people who want to a see match as comfortably as possible. Still, relatively a lot of spectators buys tickets for these seats, even more of these will be sold during bad weather);
  • Seats in VIP lounge (only important spectators like sponsors use these seats, thus,you need to build only a few of these)

Default distribution[edit]

Total capacity: 12000
Terraces: 8000
Basic seating: 3000
Seats under roof: 1000
Seats in VIP boxes: 0

This wasn't always the default distribution. People starting at the beginning of 2004 or earlier had less places in their stadium, bots still have this distribution nowadays (5000 terraces and 2000 basic seating places).

Income per seat[edit]

Terraces: 7
Basic seating: 10
Seats under roof: 19
Seats in VIP boxes: 35

Weekly upkeep costs[edit]

Terraces: 0.5
Basic seating: 0.7
Seats under roof: 1
Seats in VIP boxes: 2.5


How to build[edit]

Costs of expansion[edit]

Terraces: 45
Basic seating: 75
Seats under roof: 90
Seats in VIP boxes: 300

There is also an additional fee of 10,000 every time you expand or reduce, no matter how many seats you add or reduce.


Weekly benefit per seat (estimation*)[edit]

8 matches 7 matches
Terraces: 2.75 2.34
Basic seating: 4.05 3.46
Seats under roof: 5.5 4.69
Seats in VIP boxes: 13.75 11.72

(*) Estimation based on a full stadium at home for 8 or 7 weeks for each 16 week period.


Stadium Expansion Theories[edit]

The following contents are based on experience and/or research conducted by Hattrick users — which means that their veracity and accuracy have not been confirmed by any official statement, and consequently they do not necessarily reflect the game reality. Please take this into consideration!


Attendees will come to your matches with the desire of a certain seat category. I.e. a given portion of the potential attendees will fill terraces and others basic seats, seats under roof and VIP seats. If a seat of the given category is not available (i.e. the category is filled), the potential attendee will not buy another category.

Hence, when building your arena, you should build it with a certain category ratio. Unfortunately the ratio is dependent on supporter mood. I.e. in order to build the optimum arena, you should give your best prediction of your future (short term) fan mood. The dependency of the ratio on fan mood was published in The Optimum Stadium Study performed by danish federation Statistikforbundet with a background of more than 600 verified data sets collected through their webpage. After finding the relationships between fan mood, category ratios and attendance, the study calculated an arena size (denoted per fan), where the probability of filling the last one build seat equals the usual expected ratio between ticket price and maintenance cost.

At the moment no helper applications have implemented the new ratios, which are a bit more complicated than the earlier ones due to the fan mood dependency (introduces in hattrick season 35), but they are recapitulated below in arena size per fan.

Fan mood Terraces Basic Seats Seats under roof VIP seats Total
furious 7.852 2.341 1.234 0.104 11.53
angry 8.415 2.729 1.768 0.179 13.09
irritated 9.087 3.097 2.213 0.240 14.63
disappointed 9.797 3.457 2.628 0.297 16.17
calm 10.52 3.814 3.034 0.352 17.72
content 11.26 4.170 3.437 0.406 19.27
satisfied 12.00 4.526 3.841 0.460 20.83
delirious 12.74 4.882 4.247 0.514 22.39
high on life 13.49 5.238 4.657 0.568 23.95
dancing in the streets 14.23 5.594 5.069 0.623 25.52
Sending love poems to you 14.98 5.951 5.485 0.678 27.09

Notice that these figures can be seen as "the maximum arena with all seats generating profit over time". However, it is quite aggressive for new and/or poor teams, since the payback rate of the last seats are very low. Instead one might use the ratios given below and build a smaller stadium more suitable to the economics of the given team.

Fan mood Terraces Basic Seats Seats under roof VIP seats Total
furious 68.10% 20.30% 10.70% 0.90% 11.53
angry 64.28% 20.85% 13.51% 1.36% 13.09
irritated 62.09% 21.16% 15.12% 1.64% 14.63
disappointed 60.55% 21.37% 16.25% 1.83% 16.17
calm 59.38% 21.52% 17.12% 1.98% 17.72
content 58.43% 21.64% 17.83% 2.11% 19.27
satisfied 57.62% 21.73% 18.44% 2.21% 20.83
delirious 56.93% 21.80% 18.97% 2.30% 22.39
high on life 56.32% 21.86% 19.44% 2.37% 23.95
dancing in the streets 55.78% 21.92% 19.86% 2.44% 25.52
Sending love poems to you 55.29% 21.96% 20.24% 2.50% 27.09

Your stadium is an expensive long-term investment, which will take around two seasons to pay for itself at best. It is generally better to improve your stadium in small steps (say 2,000 to 4,000), and only if you will be able to fill those additional places in the majority of your up-coming matches.

Notes[edit]

  • When budgeting for arena expansions remember that you may not take more than 500 000 debt.
  • Statistikforbundet is still collecting numbers in order to verify and improve the numbers. Data can be submitted here.

See Also[edit]

HTs on Global/Arena

External Links[edit]