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: Maybe categorizing everyone is ok. Other note is concerning the famous players, like those from NT. I think they shouldn't be categorized under the country's main category, but only under the relevant player categories. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 14:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 
: Maybe categorizing everyone is ok. Other note is concerning the famous players, like those from NT. I think they shouldn't be categorized under the country's main category, but only under the relevant player categories. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 14:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:: Do I understand you correctly that you would like both the non-notable players and the notable ones, to be categorized exactly the same (in regards to the country), the only difference between them is what namespace they reside in? --[[User:EchoMan|EchoMan]] 15:14, January 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
:: Do I understand you correctly that you would like both the non-notable players and the notable ones, to be categorized exactly the same (in regards to the country), the only difference between them is what namespace they reside in? --[[User:EchoMan|EchoMan]] 15:14, January 29, 2009 (UTC)
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I was about to write the policy for players, notability, naming and so on... here's a résumé of what I was gonna propose:
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* Which player belongs where:
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** Articles in name space only for these players: National team (min. 1 cap, cap = played match), U-20 national team (min. 1 cap), Masters participants (1 cap), Cup final winner, top league winner (min 8 played matches), Players with nicknames or very special achievements (like [[Luca Omini]] or even much more [[Sven Åkerblad]] or [[Bob Sunesson]]), perhaps other special player types I couldn't think of right now.
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** Youth team players: <code>Team name/Player name</code>, perhaps rather <code>Team name/Youth Team name/Youth Player</code>. I think I'd prefer that one since youth academies follow the <code>Team name/Youth team name</code> scheme.
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** Normal players not fitting into the name space: <code>Team name/Player name</code>
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* Categories:
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** Players sub 1: categories as we're used to it -> Category:Belgian Players (<code>Category:Demonym Players</code>), but add them to other player categories like Hattrick Masters players / Cup final players / Famous players (for Bobs and others of that kind) / etc.
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** Players sub 2: They should also be categorised with this system: <code>Category:Demonym youth players</code>
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** Players sub 3: just the country category, nothing more.
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One thing bugging me is the tendency for capitalising even the second noun on a category (''Belgian Players'' instead of ''Belgian players''). In my opinion we should stop that...
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--[[User:Mod-Karlthegreat|Mod-Karlthegreat]] 22:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 00:49, 30 January 2009

Few notes

I think that non-notable players under team namespace shouldn't be categorized at all. Notable players should be categorized under their nationality. And player categories should also be categorized under their country's category. --Jhattara 07:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I have something against uncategorized pages, but other than that I agree with your points. --EchoMan 08:55, January 29, 2009 (UTC)
I also have something against uncategorized pages, seems better to me to add them under their national player category like you said. And is there an example of a player for the 4th point mentioned at goals (the uncategorised players)? --HeavensAngel 10:42, January 29, 2009 (UTC)
No, there is no such example yet. I had an idea that maybe we could use a template (compare to stub) that would automatically add players that are not having a team to add them to a special category, pending creation of a team-stub page for their team, and susequent move to under there. --EchoMan 11:01, January 29, 2009 (UTC)
Maybe categorizing everyone is ok. Other note is concerning the famous players, like those from NT. I think they shouldn't be categorized under the country's main category, but only under the relevant player categories. --Jhattara 14:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Do I understand you correctly that you would like both the non-notable players and the notable ones, to be categorized exactly the same (in regards to the country), the only difference between them is what namespace they reside in? --EchoMan 15:14, January 29, 2009 (UTC)


I was about to write the policy for players, notability, naming and so on... here's a résumé of what I was gonna propose:

  • Which player belongs where:
    • Articles in name space only for these players: National team (min. 1 cap, cap = played match), U-20 national team (min. 1 cap), Masters participants (1 cap), Cup final winner, top league winner (min 8 played matches), Players with nicknames or very special achievements (like Luca Omini or even much more Sven Åkerblad or Bob Sunesson), perhaps other special player types I couldn't think of right now.
    • Youth team players: Team name/Player name, perhaps rather Team name/Youth Team name/Youth Player. I think I'd prefer that one since youth academies follow the Team name/Youth team name scheme.
    • Normal players not fitting into the name space: Team name/Player name
  • Categories:
    • Players sub 1: categories as we're used to it -> Category:Belgian Players (Category:Demonym Players), but add them to other player categories like Hattrick Masters players / Cup final players / Famous players (for Bobs and others of that kind) / etc.
    • Players sub 2: They should also be categorised with this system: Category:Demonym youth players
    • Players sub 3: just the country category, nothing more.

One thing bugging me is the tendency for capitalising even the second noun on a category (Belgian Players instead of Belgian players). In my opinion we should stop that...

--Mod-Karlthegreat 22:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)