Hattrick talk:HattrickWikiProject Players

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Revision as of 06:03, 30 January 2009 by Mod-Karlthegreat (talk | contribs) (it's late in the night...)

Few notes

I think that non-notable players under team namespace shouldn't be categorized at all. Notable players should be categorized under their nationality. And player categories should also be categorized under their country's category. --Jhattara 07:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I have something against uncategorized pages, but other than that I agree with your points. --EchoMan 08:55, January 29, 2009 (UTC)
I also have something against uncategorized pages, seems better to me to add them under their national player category like you said. And is there an example of a player for the 4th point mentioned at goals (the uncategorised players)? --HeavensAngel 10:42, January 29, 2009 (UTC)
No, there is no such example yet. I had an idea that maybe we could use a template (compare to stub) that would automatically add players that are not having a team to add them to a special category, pending creation of a team-stub page for their team, and susequent move to under there. --EchoMan 11:01, January 29, 2009 (UTC)
Maybe categorizing everyone is ok. Other note is concerning the famous players, like those from NT. I think they shouldn't be categorized under the country's main category, but only under the relevant player categories. --Jhattara 14:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Do I understand you correctly that you would like both the non-notable players and the notable ones, to be categorized exactly the same (in regards to the country), the only difference between them is what namespace they reside in? --EchoMan 15:14, January 29, 2009 (UTC)


I was about to write the policy for players, notability, naming and so on... here's a résumé of what I was gonna propose:

  • Which player belongs where:
    • Articles in name space only for these players: National team (min. 1 cap, cap = played match), U-20 national team (min. 1 cap), Masters participants (1 cap), Cup final winner, top league winner (min 8 played matches), Players with nicknames or very special achievements (like Luca Omini or even much more Sven Åkerblad or Bob Sunesson), perhaps other special player types I couldn't think of right now.
    • Youth team players: Team name/Player name, perhaps rather Team name/Youth Team name/Youth Player. I think I'd prefer that one since youth academies follow the Team name/Youth team name scheme.
    • Normal players not fitting into the name space: Team name/Player name
  • Categories:
    • Players sub 1: categories as we're used to it -> Category:Belgian Players (Category:Demonym Players), but add them to other player categories like Hattrick Masters players / Cup final players / Famous players (for Bobs and others of that kind) / etc.
    • Players sub 2: They should also be categorised with this system: Category:Demonym youth players
    • Players sub 3: just the country category, nothing more.

One thing bugging me is the tendency for capitalising even the second noun on a category (Belgian Players instead of Belgian players). In my opinion we should stop that...

--Mod-Karlthegreat 22:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Yet one other thing from the new notability policy:

Players

There are many players within the Hattrick world, too many even. Not all players can enter the Hattrick Wiki and only a minor part will ever do so.

Notable players
National team and U-20 national team players are notable.
Players that win Hattrick Masters top scorer award are notable.
Generally other players are not notable.

Actually, that's the one part on the notability policy that I was thinking about when I was asking if we should separate the general notability policy from the various possible subjects. What I stated in my comment above contradicts what is written in the notability policy. I was thinking a bit more on the subject the other day, when I realised that one day, sooner or later, Hattrick Clubhouse will cease to exist. In this case we'll have to be prepared for an increased influx of players (perhaps) which needs a) a better structure and b) more types of players will become notable.

What I'm gonna do now is to write Hattrick:Player. Then we'll have a look at that, vote for or against it and accordingly also change the general notability policy. --Mod-Karlthegreat 03:51, 30 January 2009 (UTC)