Hattrick talk:Notability
Discussion
At this time the policy isn't complete, but we can start discussion of a few points:
- Whether or not the Team:XXX namespace for non-notable teams is the best option
- Where to draw the line for articles about users (which should exist and which shouldn't)
- Where to draw the line for articles about players
- What else should be included in this policy
-Catalyst 21:55:19, 2006-04-08 (UTC)
First the Team: namespace needs to be created. I'm not aware does Wikimedia restrict the number of namespaces, but I think it would be a very good idea to have a Team: namespace. --Jhattara 06:43, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure there's no restriction, and even if there were I think the Team: Namespace is important enough to have one. I've moved my page there (Team:Bremerton Bombers) but I think this policy will have to be passed before we move other teams there. -Catalyst 19:33:07, 2006-04-09 (UTC)
- Having a Team:Namespace would at least be better than having individual teams somewhere deep in the User:Namespace/Team area. I don't know who will policing the Level 1 articles, but well some restrictions on the use of the main namespace seems logical to me. --Oligarf 16:47, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't think this is at all necessary, and certainly not the "level 1 notability" requirments. I kinda think that someone, not saying who, really likes to write regulations. Which is okay, but I think this wiki suffers from lack of (in-depth) participation. Rules such as these are only going to make that worse, as people create pages, have them deleted, are referred to "policies," on and on. The wiki should be fun, lively, and not taken as seriously as all that.
Furthermore (you knew there'd be one), there is simply not enough discussion/participation in this (or the other) policy debates to warrant making a serious decisions. It is unfair for 3 or 4 people to determine the fate of a wiki that belongs to hundreds of thousands (regardless if only a few thousand actively use it). Unless we can drum up REAL debate, these policies should be decided VERY carefully, if at all. The consensus and naming convention policies are relatively practical--this policy is full of value judgments and so I think it should be nixed right now, in its inception.
Or better, severely narrowed. I'd suggest just stating the difference namespaces notable and non-notable teams should be placed in. The parameters given for "level 1" teams make nice guidlines, but they should ONLY be suggestions. If there is some question about whether a particular team or manager is truly notable, it be could be decided on a case-by-case basis in that page's discussion page. The "Level 1 article restrictions" should be trashed altogether. As well as the various levels of notability.
I think it fine to say all non-notable teams should go in a derivitive namespace, and the team:namespace seems a good idea. But again, I think the definitions of notability should be guidelines and NOT policy.
--septimusjm 17:57, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
