HTs on Global/Hattrick Website

Keywords: (New website Design), (Redesign)

From:	HT-Tjecken		(11718558.1) as reply to (0)
To: Everyone			12.08.2008 10:12
As you now can read on editorial space, the current (old) design is making itself ready for retirement. It has some flaws and other problem, and that's the reason for the retirement. I also think you are aware of these flaws/problems as you use it everyday. We know that many of you are really used to this design, but even so we hope you also understand the reasons for retirement. Because there are even brighter Hattrick days and moments to come, in the coming design which we think you will come to like even more.

Keywords: (New website Design), (Forum), (Conference)

From:	HT-Tjecken		(11718558.7) as reply to (11718558.2)
To: Sir_Dancelot			12.08.2008 10:18
Yeehar! New forum engine as well? Pretty please? ;-) Allrightie then. :) The forum today is very good for experienced forum users, for those who make a rare visit (or new users) it's really not good at all. So our aim is to make it a lot easier to use in order to make more people interested in the forums. But at the same time we will naturally also think a lot about those who already spend a lot of time here, we will not forget your wishes so to say.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Tjecken		(11718558.9) as reply to (11718558.3)
To: forst			12.08.2008 10:19
When do you think the new design will be ready? In 2-3 months, something like that.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Tjecken		(11718558.12) as reply to (11718558.11)
To: Mravo			12.08.2008 10:23
Any screenshots for those who can't wait? ;) We will post screenshots eventually, but you'll have to wait a little bit longer. :)

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Johan		(11718558.14) as reply to (11718558.13)
To: Mravo			12.08.2008 10:27
Will the re-design address the impossible-to-navigate NT/U20 section of the menus? The international section will be redesigned, but in this case we will do it in several steps. There will be a general tidying up of that hopeless mess, but we have more ideas for thaty section than we will release in the first version.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Tjecken		(11718558.20) as reply to (11718558.15)
To: Karl-Heinz-Spock			12.08.2008 10:31
The new design will include a changelog-site besides that MyHT-space, for smaller things? A Bugtracking-site? I'm not sure that will make it to the first version, but it's in the loop. We have a quite nice overall plan for informational issues, but as it includes a lot of new functionality it will probably not make it to the first version.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Johan		(11718558.24) as reply to (11718558.20)
To: HT-Tjecken			12.08.2008 10:36
The new design will include a changelog-site besides that MyHT-space, for smaller things? A Bugtracking-site? I'm not sure that will make it to the first version, but it's in the loop. We have a quite nice overall plan for informational issues, but as it includes a lot of new functionality it will probably not make it to the first version. Let me add to that we nowadays have a stage server, where all new code is tested live with users before coming to the main site, and in that environment we do have a public bugtracking tool. The stage server is currently invitation-only, but we aim to make it possible for everyone to get a place there (but not everyone at once) ;)

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Johan		(11718558.38) as reply to (11718558.35)
To: Drittaccount			12.08.2008 10:53
btw: There are loads of CHPP not active and dead. Will you use the new design to clean it up and reopen officially the CHPP process? CHPP is definitely going to get more attention from us. We are not using the redesign as a way to kill off inactive apps, but if that is a byproduct of the change, that is probably a good thing.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Tjecken		(11718558.54) as reply to (11718558.45)
To: hrvojek			12.08.2008 11:17
Do you plan to make a transition period, i.e. to make both design schemas active? Is there any chance that one could choose between designs at least for some time (as is done with Youth Schools)? No, and no.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Tjecken		(11718558.62) as reply to (11718558.50)
To: Jensor			12.08.2008 11:29
Could you give some additional information on the aspect of browsing HT on a mobile device? It will be a lot easier to navigate the coming design from a mobile phone, and even easier if we make a special skin for it. It's in our interest too, as we would like if users (ourself included) could bring Hattrick with them everywhere.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Tjecken		(11718558.85) as reply to (11718558.68)
To: wimpiethereal			12.08.2008 12:13
Why couldn't we choose for the "old" design? There are many reasons actually, but the biggest reason is perhaps that having two completely different designs also means we have to maintain two designs. This means that we have to add all new functionality twice and instead of having to do write one new page (or correct something in a page), we have to write _two_ compeletely new pages (or correct something, but in two different ways, twice). As you can imagine, it would take a lot of time (more than double the amount of time it will take now, as the coming design will be a lot easier to work with) and that's time which could be so much better spent on other things.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Johan		(11718558.91) as reply to (11718558.86)
To: wimpiethereal			12.08.2008 12:29
After the article I had read i think all these thiongs will only good for new users. What with the 200 thousand active old users? We don´t think so. To a certain extent anew design is a matter of taste, and old users may have a harder time than others to get use to the new style than others. But that is no argument for never changing. I think you either develop or decline. The question is not whether to change or not, it is how you build on your heritage rather than squander it. We also think there is a lot of changes in the new designs that are not matter of taste, they are simply objective improvements. There are a lot of compromises that has been done over the years as we tried to cope with the design decisions that were made in the past. It´s natural, but it also makes it necessary to tidy up once in a while. I think it will be liberating for us.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Johan		(11718558.93) as reply to (11718558.92)
To: Jackwewo_HFF			12.08.2008 12:36
Will it be possible to go on with this "graphic style" of the site (maybe an option in the preferences menu)? We will offer a skin that is similar to the current design. Since it is only a skin, it will follow the new navigation and organization, but I don´t think that particular change will be very shocking to anyone.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Johan		(11718558.141) as reply to (11718558.129)
To: oldtrafford			12.08.2008 16:03
Will there be more extra's for the supporters? Something like more slots for feds, more bookmarks (or a possible change from youthplayers to fora or players or users or...the total remains, but the choice is ours)...and more stuff that you can find out by yourself...;-) Supporters will get a few improvements in the new design, both by way of making existing features but also a few extras stuck in. I think the stuff in pipeline will raise a few eyebrows! But Supporter is not the main purpose of the redesign. Now, once the redesign is done, Supporter is one of the things we hope to be able to give more attention to - we have done very little for Supporters in the last two years I´m afraid.

Keywords: (New website Design)

From:	HT-Johan		(11718558.142) as reply to (11718558.135)
To: rei85			12.08.2008 16:04
The editorial says: It would also be nice to have a set of icons in the same style and from the same source (today's icons are in different styles and from different sources), and we would like it to be easier to make different skins for Hattrick, something which is quite hard today. What does this exactly mean? Will it be easier for you or for us too? I'm a foxtrick user and I love make customized skin for hattrick. I'm very interested in how the layout will change. User-designed skins will not be possible at launch, at least not supported by us. But it should be quite possible indeed further down the line.