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Guidelines

I suppose it's time to think of some guidelines and policies within the HT-wiki. One I believe will be helpful is here| on the Help page. --Cryout 19:57, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

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Nice idea, I also think some discussion is needed about that issue. I would suggest you creating a page for the project (you can check the Templates project page if you feel like), as a place to start some discussion and organize the topics available. --duno7 15:18, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

math library

I am not sure where to put this, so I decided to put the question here as the problem shows here as well. When you try using a math expression, the following error is displayed:

Failed to parse (Can't write to or create math output directory): \mathbf{x} = 0

Would it be possible to fix this? --psymon 07:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Hattrick:Naming_conventions

I've created a guideline for name conventions, most if it based on Wikipedia.org.

What do you think about it?

--carlesmu 13:46, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

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I find a common question is how to add a page. We really should put this in at the top. I'm going to do so now. OgtheDim

Help:foo organization

I'm moving editing examples to Help:Editing

Done. --carlesmu 16:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Articles about Own Team

Hopefully, this can provide a good level of organisation and a way to
keep the HT-encyclopedia somewhat clean of information that is not
essential to the community.

I think this is a very poor justification for listing teams under usernames. It might make sense from an organizational point of view, but not as far as keeping the HT-Wiki "clean of information that is not essential to the community."

The point of a wiki is not to provide information that is essential to everyone, but any information that is essential to anyone. Obviously in this context that info would be HT-related.

So the question is one of organization. And I don't see why putting the team name as a regular page would hurt that. The key, to me, is the category tags those pages are given. For instance, the "clubs" tag or country-related clubs tags. Notable teams would be given a category tag to a page for "Notable teams." See my team page for an example of how this might be done: Roaches Or for an example of a Notable American Team see Kansas City Wizards. --Septimusjm 20:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

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Searching teams name in HT:

• with 'Team Spirit':

team spirit
Team Spirit 17
Team Spirit 2
team spirit 54
Team Spirit II

• With 'Arizona':

Arizona
Arizona Apaches
Arizona Apaches
Arizona Apaches
Arizona Babylonians
Arizona Bears
Arizona Bears
Arizona Bears
Arizona Bears
Arizona Bears
...
...

Without unique teams names and without unambiguous names, I don't know better solution than move them under User:foo/boo if it isn't a remarkable club. I agree that essential isn not the better word, most of the content of the wiki is not essential for the comunity and it isn't moved to User:foo/boo; may be it shoud be better if is chaged for useful?

--carlesmu 21:30, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

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team names

It still seems more natural, to me, to list teams as normal pages. There is the problem of similar team names, but that could be solved with disambiguation pages.

There's just something about the naming suggested here that seems, well, I don't know a better word than unnatural.

Anyway, I understand where your coming from. If this does become the convention, then I think all teams ought to be listed in the same way (under username). If the team is notable for whatever reason, then a category tag should be used. --Septimusjm 21:39, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree. But not all the owners of natable clubs are HT-wiki users, if a ht-wiki user write an article about his own club (notable or not) I think it should go in User:foo/boo. --carlesmu 21:51, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

But now you have the issue of two different ways to create club pages. So why not go with putting them on a normal page (....org/teamname)? Then everything's consistent. When you have two teams with identical names, you of course need a disambiguation page. Easy enough. The good thing is, even though there are plenty of teams with similar names, not many of them will be creating club pages here. --Septimusjm 21:59, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I prefer to have my club page (if I write it) as User:carlesmu/Bandiera Rossa Trinferà, under my user space, its my club I don't think it is of interest for the comunity and I'm expecting that, under my user space, people don't change or delete the content. But this is just my opinion and I'm not trying to enforce --it it's only the opinion of some HT-wiki users (at least User:Cryout and myself)-- We only suggest people to use this unoficial convention. --carlesmu 22:12, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, no one's changing other people's club pages. This is just a discussion of what the best standard would be. Presumably, if some kind of agreement could be reached, then people would move their own pages. --Septimusjm

If they aren't in the user namespace everybody can and should do it if he thinks its a improvement. If somebody wants to add a club template or some random category that fits but the owner don't agree, by example 'Category:spanish club' to a pro-independence-catalan user club, I guess if the club that the former should be right if it's 'boo', the club its under the HT-wiki comunity namespace, as a HT owner, he don't have more privileges than other HT-wiki user; if it's 'User:foo/boo' I think the user foo can do what he wants with his namespace (without breaking policies and HT-rules). I think we are stagnats and we need more opinions. --carlesmu 22:46, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

hattrick wiki logo

I've kicked off a contest to get this great project a new logo. For this I've posted the call for suggestions in several confereces within Hattrick as well as external forums. I'll keep posting the samples which people create here. I'll also post these in the Hattrick Wiki conference. I've created a thread for this there.

• 
  Artist: SirHawkeye
• 
  Artist: Brausebirne
• 
  Artist: Joager

Writings will be changed by the artists if the logo gets selected as the new Hattrick Wiki Logo. I can understand they don't want the logos to be selected without their knowledge ;) By the way - something's not working with the < gallery > template... but as long as we see the pictures, I think it's okay ;)

Shall I make this logo project an extra page?

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Yes, I think so. Can I suggest something like Hattick:Hattrick wiki logo contest and add a link from the wiki main page?

BTW, The logos should need some acceptable license. I think that BSD, GFDL or GPL would be fine but it's unclarified (see the text at the end of the edition page).

--carlesmu 23:03, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Good point. I'll extract this now - I think you're right. HT-Johan said in the global conference he likes the idea - so it's a good idea that we make this more visible ;)

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I also think a new page for the logo contest is needed, plus a link from the main page. The main page should be a dinamic and updated article, that reflects events such as this one in my opinion. Also, I can only see one of the logos, and the layout on that table looks screwed to me (on linux & firefox). Great idea! --duno7 23:15, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Also linux and firefox, I can see the three images but there is a text at the bottom overlaping. Could you try: [[Image:hattrickwikilogo_suggestion1_sirhawkeye.jpg|thumb|140px|Artist: SirHawkeye]] [[Image:hattrickwikilogo_suggestion1_brausebirne.gif|thumb|140px|Artist: Brausebirne]] [[Image:hattrickwikilogo_suggestion1_joager.gif|thumb|140px|Artist: Joager]] --carlesmu 23:30, 30 November 2005 (UTC)