Oceania Mentors

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This page contains some information about the Mentoring program recently started in Oceania.

The scheme was started by Kitto on 22nd August 2007 with the following announcement in the Oceania conferences:

Keywords: (Oceanian Mentoring Scheme)

By: Mod-Kitto ? as reply to ?
To: ? 08.22.2007 at ?

There has been talk of it for a while, and given the drop in Oceanian players (from [http://websec.science.uva.nl/~lhoek/maptrick.php?leagueid=15&action=0]), I think it's time.

Time to unleash mentoring upon the new Oceanian players!

We all remember our first few games. It all seemed a bit confusing. I'm sure most people can recall times where they've lost training, lost games against bots (or division six cup opponents...), or just generally seemed lost amongst the beauty that is hattrick. HT-Johan recently said that 50% of people leave within the first two months of joining, so it's crucial we reach these people.

The plan:

I'm happy to take on board suggestions on how to run this. First of all I'll ask for mentors
- please post if you are able to assist. I see mentoring as being in two parts:

a) simple mentoring. Things like assisting with the Manager License Challenge, setting up a training scheme, coaching, getting the economy right, basic first few months stuff.

b) indepth mentoring. Getting down to tactics, what skills that influence what sector ratings, scouting opponents and the match engine.

You may find that some things intersect.

There are a lot of new players. Each month, I'll take the list from http://alltid.org/country/oceania/startdate,8_2007/index/]. I'm not actually sure how often this is updated, hopefully at least every month. As you can see, there are 200 new teams started just this month, so it's a massive task. I would only recommend (depending on how much time you have) 3 or 4 teams per mentor. I'll split up the list and assign teams through this thread.

Action:

Send a HT mail to your assigned team. Understand that some may refuse help, some may be frightened why some random team has messaged them, and some will eagerly accept.

Introduce yourself, introduce the mentoring system, give them yourself and the Questions conference as a reference for any questions they have about the game. Then take it from there. Let me know when you are ready to take on new teams.

As I said before, I'm happy to accept suggestions as to how to actually do this, but this method has been tried and tested in Scotland... they have a fair few less new starters though.

I'm guessing we'll get maybe 15 mentors, which will be a fantastic result. 200 new teams per 15 mentors is a big stretch, so some teams will unfortunately miss out. Any ideas on this?

I'll put my hand up to mentor, and to run this program. Any other helpers?

Rules for Mentors[edit]

This program is entirely voluntary from both Mentors and Mentees.

Hattrick appreciates the work you are all doing, and I ask that you ensure that you treat the people you contact with the utmost respect.

Some people will not want to take on a mentor, and if that is the case, please let them go and ask Kitto for a new opportunity. For those that respond positively, then please ensure that your behaviour is OK with the Hattrick rules.

For example:

  • It is not allowed to log into someone elses team
  • It is not allowed to have your mentee bid on your players for above market prices (in fact - discourage any transfer activity between yourselves and any Hattrick friends they have).
  • It is OK to talk tactics and devise the "in game" downfall of other users.
  • It would be appreciated if you could teach your Mentees the rules of the conferences as well as the in game intricacies.

Sample HT-mail messages[edit]

Hi, I am an Oceanian user who has been playing this game for a while. If you would like, I can give you some tips on hattrick and ensure you get off to the best start possible.


Well, first off, make sure you don't waste your precious starting money. Thats means no youth academy, no stadium upgrades, and no expensive older players. We want to set your team up for long term success.

That means a training program, where we buy players, train them to superstars, and sell for huge profits to help your team long term. Would you like to know how to do this?


For a training program you're looking for some young players to train into superstars.

A trainee must play during the week, in a midweek game or a league match. Players who play as defenders can train their defending. Players who play in the midfield can train their playmaking. Players who play up front can train as forwards. Keepers who play train in keeper. I train forward. So to start with, you need to choose one position which takes your fancy (defender is typically hardest).


For a coach, go to the training menu and click "change coach" then "external recruiting" (internal recruiting is using a current players to become coach, this does not work for new players).

For a coach, only his training skill and leadership matter. But trainer skill is much more important, and leadership can be very expensive (millions of dollars). So if I was you, Id go for a passable coach with poor leadership, great coach + good value for money.

Wiki references[edit]

Manager License Challenge: As some mentors may not be familiar with the new Manager License challenge, which introduces newer players to hattrick, please read this page.

Training: This page has a list of the pros and cons of each training scheme, plus estimated training speeds.

Newbie Tips: A useful list of tips for new managers.

Rules: The rules of the game.