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Man we have a serieus saboteur at work. I see you have reverted quite some pages. He seems to change ip all the time. What is it that he inserts in those pages anyway? I can't see a thing untill I click edit, then a whole list of links and stuff appears. The poor bastard can't feed his children he claims. Do you know what it is?
:[[User talk:Jhattara/Archive 2006|Archive 2006]]
:[[User talk:Jhattara/Archive 2007|Archive 2007]]
:[[User talk:Jhattara/Archive 2008|Archive 2008]]
:[[User talk:Jhattara/Archive 2009|Archive 2009]]


== Wiki admins ==
__TOC__


Please take a look at [[Hattrick:Administrators]]. --[[User:Ukelele|ukelele]] 14:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
== Template:Postid ==


== Flag templates ==
Even though the link does not show, if you log in through that link, the thread will be showed. Is it good enough to restore that link? --[[User:Crazycompgeek|Mod-Geek]] 15:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


Hi; I've changed the names of the [[Hattrick:Flag templates]] and also i've moved the content of "Hattrick:National team templates" to that page.  I'm changing the links to get the "National team templates" deletable, but there is one under your user space ([[Special:Whatlinkshere?target=Hattrick:National_team_templates]]). --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 16:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
== change of pagina title ==


:Yes, I know that I have to change the pages using them. I expect to change them in the next days. --[[User:Carlesmu|carlesmu]] 06:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey,


== Delete template ==
I changed my pagina Title again, because my team name is commonly known as Red Star Brussels. In Belgium, team prefixes are often based on the origins of the team, but are not always referred to in common talk or writing. I prefer to keep the standard name thus. Also, i wouldn't want to go change all my other articles that are connected to it again...


Sorry about the discrepancy... it should be <nowiki>{{Delete|11-2006}}</nowiki>.  You may want to have a look at [[HT:ARD]] (which I just wrote) and add your input as well.
: I moved the page again (this time correctly) because that is the team's full name. Pages that link to Red Star Brussels still lead to the correct article, so no need to change them. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 21:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
-[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 08:23:52, 2006-11-06 (UTC)


== Soccer/Football ==
== Big red button? ==


I didn't make the reverts because I think soccer should be used. To me, the terms are used interchangably on a global scale. I respect those in Sweden (what we call their country in America) by calling it by the local name of Sverige when I'm talking on a global forum, and I think that others should do the same. If an American writes soccer, especially when talking about an American who plays soccer (the Mod-Lytic page), then he should be able to without someone going through and replacing every instance of soccer with football. That is why I went through and made the reverts, because the original author chose to use soccer. [[User:Kc-jake|-- Jake]] 19:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Your bot page mentions a "big red button", but such a button is not in evidence. --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr_Wednesday]] 17:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:Good catch. I removed that sentence from the template. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 07:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


He's got a point Jhattara. Europeans prefer to use the term football because in Europe football means one thing & one thing only, however we have to accept that to users in the US (& in other areas of the world where there are competing codes of football) then soccer may be a more culturally pertinent term of reference.It serves to differentiate it from other forms of football such as gridiron (or aussie rules).
== Country data templates ==


--[[User:FFHF-Escafeld|FFHF-Escafeld]] 22:43, November 29, 2006 (UTC)
Just curious what you're up to with all of these new templates?  I assume it's part of a bigger plan. --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr_Wednesday]] 19:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
: Trying to reduce the number of active templates and make using and editing them a bit easier. With all those Country data templates formatted exactly the same way it's easy for me to put a bot if they need some editing, if the core template is in need of improvements. And if just the flag and flagicon (maybe others in the future) need fixing, I just need to edit them, instead of hundreds of templates. Instead of the current {{[[Template:Flag/ALG|Flag/ALG]]}} and {{[[Template:Flag/ALGn|Flag/ALGn]]}} with these you can use {{[[Template:Flagicon|Flagicon|Algeria]]}} or {{[[Template:Flag|Flag|ALG]]}}. I have lots of ideas how to improve this wiki, this is just one I thought I could start doing by myself. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 19:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


== Regions in Turkey ==
That might be a good idea yea :). All the links are in the Template. [[User:ZF-Nightwish|ZF-Nightwish]] 17:55, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:Not that I know, I'm checking the countries one by one now. If they added 50 regions somewhere else I let you know. [[User:ZF-Nightwish|ZF-Nightwish]] 18:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


I'd like to clarify that I don't intend to set a standard where every reference to the sport is changed to soccer or anything; I'm making the point that the original editor's terms should be kept. If the editor makes up a word or says the wrong thing (can instead of can't, should instead of will, etc) then it can be changed. But I think that if the original editor writes soccer, it should be left as soccer; and if the original editor writes football, it should be left as football. Or futbol. Or footie. [[User:Kc-jake|-- Jake]] 16:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
==Club template==
[[Template:Club]]
A user changed and redicected this. Now it doesn't work properly. Can you revert the edits to the old version? Thanks [[User:Hellas220|Hellas220]] 07:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
: Can you tell me the pages where it doesn't work properly. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 08:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


== Translating ==
== [[Ferentillese]] ==


I come from Hong Kong, and I would like to translate the menu and some article(such as rules and newbie tips...) into Chinese, coz there is a trend of increasing in the number of users in Hattrick China, Hong Kong and Chinese Taipei.
Hi, I created the page about my team. Can I do it or it's a problem?
--[[User:Ichabod-Crane|Ichabod-Crane]] 10:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
: Sure. I'll do some modifications there for administration reasons, unless another admin gets there before myself. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 13:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::Ok, thank you very much --[[User:Ichabod-Crane|Ichabod-Crane]] 10:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


Please tell me what I should do.
== Suggestion: Translation ==


[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 23:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Not knowing where to place this one, I'll do it on a discussion page - and of all users listed as admin I just picked you. Bad luck :p Well... what I'm just after stumbling upon, is this: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GoogleTranslate Google Translate extension] for MediaWiki.
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May I use hk, cn or tw as the link, cause I mainly make this for Hong Kong people.
For instance (MediaWiki experienced know that: internationalization is a long process) and for user pages such as their clubs this would be a neat addon. Counterpart is the negative prestige Google has even among IT professionals (many of them still only are too thick to prevent being data-mined by just ''anyone'').


[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 02:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not affiliated with Google, and seriously: I prefer proper translation to some bot. But well... in the meantime... :) • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 14:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
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May I ask if I can use [[zh-yue]], there is also [http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki zh-yue] in Wikipedia
:Google Translate at best creates confusion, at worst outright misunderstanding. So in short: If it's up to me Google Translate won't be used in here. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 23:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
== Loops? ==
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Zh is normal Chinese, mostly used in [[China]] and [[Chinese Taipei]].
Spontaneously I couldn't find something over here, be it mediawiki, help or templates...


Zh-yue is Chinese also but in Cantonese, mostly used in [[Hong Kong]] and [[Guangdong ]](One of the China regions)
Is this MediaWiki installation able to handle loops? Something like [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LoopFunctions LoopFunctions]? Loops would be deadly necessary for abstract templates being able to handle an arbitrary number of input variables; such as squad templates, match templates (goals, cards; all that differs). Additionally I found no template that flexible...


[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for bothering you on your discussion site, but I also miss portals here :) Or I've been just too thick to find them until now. • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 13:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
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They are same language, but difference dialect, so difference in text(sometimes are the same).


Not just like 5-5-0, 5-5-0 is an article
:I haven't looked into the loop templates. If you can give me examples that have been done using those, I could look into them. As for portals: feel free to make them yourself, if you feel like you're up for the task. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::If "make them for myself" means just create them, I guess it's okay with me whenever I find the time. As for loops: take a look at [[:User:Lirion/Sandbox/Squad]]. This is 32 times a bunch of code and excludes people who want more than 32 players, where one time would be enough adding two or three lines and would make this FLEXIBLE. Plus: changing code there is a heckload of fumbly work. In the long run this will save mentionable database space; meanwhile it will save us editors a LOT OF WORK. Take a look at the extension I linked before, it integrates fine (I already did this with MediaWiki 1.15). This will at least introduce for-loops to MediaWiki. If this now isn't enough said, ask a programmer; if it is enough, you are one yourself ;) • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 23:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::PS: If I got you wrong now and there ARE loops already integrated, then ignore the above and please tell me where to find them :) • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 23:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::P.P.S. [[Special:Version]] only lists ParserFunctions, and this [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions does ''not'' include loops]
:::Instead of using looping templates you can always use the model Header template:Line template:End template, like the [[:Category:Infobox templates]]. But I'll look into those loops, when I get the time. And yeah, you can just create the portals if you feel like it. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 23:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::::HeaderTemplate:LineTemplate:EndTemplate don't save work as I described above... in the ideal case of only one line per player the squad of a team with 32 players results in 32 lines; with a loop this will be ''3 lines(!!!)''. Your example needs still to be called 32 times, a loop example will call ''itself'' 32 times with no extra code, none, nay. If you ever come to programming, you will stumble upon loops - they just are an essential. Just for info :) Thanks for looking that up. Hopefully we'll soon see the ext =) • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 09:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::P.S.: Plus: A template like you described will have, let's say, 50 if expressions which have to be worked every time someone calls it up. (Do we have a 40th player? Do we have a 41st player? Do we do we do we...) A team with 16 players ''still'' will need 50 calls! A loop will only need 16 calls, and another team with 27 players takes its 27 calls. Period. I can't stress too much how much work you save for the servers (load balancing) and for the users, sorry. • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 12:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::How much more efficiently this could be done: [[FC_Kakskerta#Current_Players]] ? Ok, now I use 4 different template, calling one of those once for each player, and a start, mid and end template. But I can't see the advantage. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 16:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::At the moment, this seems to be a valid argument concerning effectiveness :) However, if you like centralization, then loops get interesting... here's my effort: [[User:Lirion/Sandbox/Squad]]. I'm the person who puts the (mechanical) brain before the data and not vice versa. Thence my call for loops. I guess, in this case you are right :) I don't even know which variant is faster with MediaWiki - yours or mine with loops. Would have to be tested :) • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 18:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. I guess what finally made me do the centralization thing, was the thought of sortable tables. I never tried to split up a table and somehow seemed to have thought that you can't sort tables put together by other tables (which would be right, but not if you do it with ''parts'').<br/>So big, big sorry for making such a fuss about something which will, definitely, be a nice feature but isn't ''that'' deadly necessary. • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 14:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::No problem. --[[User:Jhattara|Jhattara]] 18:53, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
== New templates ==
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For the tag, I will ad afer I have finish all the main articles.


"I see no reason for you not to use also Zh-yue/ folder." My english understanding is not really good, I want to ask the sentence above, do you mean that I can use [[Zh-yue/]] folder??
Thank you Jhattara, I will work soon for a new template for leagues. It's very hard to update League Series and sometimes boring. If you have an idea, please tell me.


[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I've been breaking my mind trying to put the age of the player, I have this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:For_year_month_day&action=edit source] but I don't know how the change the year in order to have 112 days per year. Do you have any idea? --[[User:Lleida|Lleida]] 19:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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: '''Age calculator''': I will wait for one day to check if it works and then I will add it in new templates. {{done}} ''(see in [[Template:Es/Contar días]])''
Just after I read your message, I felt happy, but 10minutes later, I found that there is only me editing Chinese Wiki, if I have to translate two languages, I will waste lots of time!!
:: Thank you very much! It's working in [[Template:Infobox Player]] --[[User:Lleida|Lleida]] 12:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


Maybe I will do the [[Zh-yue/]] after I have find some helper.
== Current spam problem ==


[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
As you can see on the [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes Page]], our wiki has recently been discovered as easily accessible for spam (bots).


== 1st Division League ==
I urge all ''active'' administrators to immdiately take countermeasures; such as a captcha for the registration process. That is spread all over Wikipedia, so there's at least one mediawiki extension known to work fine and easy to implement.


May I change it back to [[1st Division League (Hong Kong)]]??
Thank you for reading. • <small><strong>[[User:Lirion|<span style="color: #084;">&nbsp;Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)&nbsp;</span>]]</strong>[[User Talk:Lirion| <sup style="font-weight: bold; color: #c50;">wtf?</sup>]]</small> • 08:02, 6 March 2011 (UTC)


Cause 1st Division League is a common name for the top series in quite a few of country!!
== trophy templates ==


[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
The user Para Para make a image link on all the Trophy templates. I did a backup and asked him about that. I saw that you worked about Trophy templates so I reported that to you. Bye.
 
--[[User:Lucaxvi|Lucaxvi]] 21:40, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 
--Re: Re: 1st Division League
 
I thought it is the default name, then it is OK now!!
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Re: Zh/Flag/ templates ==
 
I blanked them is just because there is no Chinese name for the country in Hattrick, I just want to change it back to English.
 
I am sorry.
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 
 
OK, then I will now start to create more Chinese HT country page with [[User:Aurandon]]
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 
 
I found the golden boot on the team page of the Hattrick Masters winner Hapoel Nahariya (340770).
 
[[User:Susande|Susande]] 17:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== canton is not a ht-country ==
 
The title show what you write as comment on your edit in my user page.
 
But I got to show you something: http://wiki.hattrick.org/Team
 
Go to the bottom, and try the link of Hong Kong, it is already Cantonese Clubs as default.
 
Try other country's link, they all use their national language as prefix of their link, and Hong Kong people use contonese, so the default is right, so please don't change it back to Hong Kong clubs.
 
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 
 
 
Re: Re: canton is not a ht-country
 
This time I got to explain the history of Hong Kong...
 
Hong Kong is part of China, Hong Kong people mostly come from the [[Guangdong]] province, in English, we call this province "Canton", the people from "Canton" is Cantonese!!
 
Therefore, Hong Kong people is also Cantonese, there is no word which describe Hong Kong, we don't use Chinese or we will make confusion, therefore, Cantonese is the only choice.
 
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 
 
 
Re: Re: Re: canton is not a ht-country
 
I was wasting time to debate with you, cause I am wrong and you are right.
 
Then who is the first one to put Cantonese in the Hong Kong Team Category??
 
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Match Report Template ==
 
[[Template:Match_report_new]]
 
There is one [[Team:DDT_Mathematics_United/League/Season_15/Round_5|Exmaple]] of my match.
 
 
I create this template, and partly copy from [[Template:Match_report]]
 
 
I just want to ask if this can be used in the final of the World Cup, U-20 World Cup and Hattrick Master finals, I think it will be good eh.
 
 
p.s. Now the possession is still doen't look like the one in Hattrick, but similar.
 
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 02:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 
 
Re: Re: Match Report Template
 
 
That's why I said World Cup, U-20 World Cup and Hattrick Master finals, just a few matches.
 
World Cup: 8Finals
 
U-20 World Cup: 8Finals
 
Hattrick Masters: 4Finals
 
Total: 20Finals
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 11:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 
 
==Re: Show preview==
 
There is aa problem which I am going to show you:
 
At first, I have added(or delete) something on/from a page, then I save it.(For safety reason, won't lose my edits)
 
And then, I have to continue adding, after I save it, I found that the page only show my seconds edit, but the first edit are disappear.
 
Then, I added the stuff which I have added in the first edit, after saving, I show my 3rd edit(Also the first), but the 2nd edit lost.
 
 
That's why I have to edit so many time, I still don't know why it was happening...
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 11:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 
==Regions of the Netherlands==
Hi Jhattara! why did you deleted the words '''"Dutch overseas regions"''' in the [[Template:Regions Nederland]]? It was more clearly/specific than the current version, and after all, they are Dutch overseas regions. Greetings! [[User:Mavuba|Mavuba]] 22:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Vandalism ==
Hi! I notice their is a lot of vandalism on this wiki. I think it should be a good idea to insert a captcha, like on HT clubhouses. Or instead of that captcha only let registered users edit the wiki. I don't think the last option is a good option, but it's better then this vandalism.
I'm writing this in your talk because I see you delete spam or reverse vandalised pages a lot.
Just my 2 cents. --[[User:Rob184|Rob184]] 23:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Complaining on [[User:Aurandon]] ==
 
[[Zh/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%86_U-20_%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%9D%AF#.E6.B1.BA.E8.B3.BD|Chinese version of U-20 World Cup I - Final]]
 
[[User:Aurandon|Aurandon]] added his own comments in chinese:
    雙方上演了一場實力懸殊的決賽，令5萬多名現場觀眾有點失望。瑞典憑高達7成的控球時間，全場控制大局，以狂風掃落葉
    的姿態，狂數大洋洲7球，當中當時效力 Gunners AFC 的 Andreas Edvinsson 及己退休的 Ove Selén 均梅開二度，
    協助瑞典取得首屆 U-20 世界杯冠軍。以U-20國家隊來說，中場評級達神秘莫測實在極為難得。
 
I don't think it is objective, please tell him to put it to the [[Talk:Zh/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%86_U-20_%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%9D%AF?action=edit|Talk of U-20 World Cup I (Chinese version)]]
 
 
 
A little add, May you assign me to be the moderator of Chinese Hattrick Wiki?
 
I asked this because the 5 [[:Category:Administrators|Admin]] don't know chinese(I think they don't, including you)
 
And you won't understand what the people add on the page, but I do.
 
I will reported my moderate to you every time I think I have to.
 
I know this is sudden and you will be 99.99% rejecting me, but I think a moderator for each language is needed, even in the Russian Hattrick Wiki need one.
 
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 10:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 
 
 
Re: Re: Complaining on [[User:Aurandon]]
The text:
<div style="border: 1px dotted #BCB888; color: black; background-color: #FFF8DF; padding: 1em; margin: 0.5em;" id="disambig"> A match with '''differnce level of teams''', which make more than 50000 audience '''disappointed'''. Sweeden had 70% of the possession, controlling the whole match, bombed 7 goals to Oceania in a '''crazy way'''{{ref|ref-1}}, in the match, both Andreas Edvinsson from Gunners AFC and Ove Selén who is retired scored two goals, helping Sweeden get the U-20 World Cup I. In U-20 teams, a midfield of supernatural is '''difficult to see'''.</div>
 
 
Bold words are the words which I think it is not objective.
 
Note:
#{{note|ref-1}} crazy way (a chinese phrase, which mean a stronger stuff beaten up a weaker stuff very crazy, I translated it to carzy way)
 
 
 
I can't see [[User:Tjecken]]'s user page or talk page have anything, should I talk to him in Hattrick game message??
 
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 
 
Great!! Thank you...
 
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 08:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Unofficial National Champoionship ==
 
As I want to do this article for Hong Kong.
 
But I got a few question to ask.
 
1. Hong Kong was a region in China before it defined as a country in Hattrick World.
 
Then should I pick the match in China of the first two Hong Kong human player meet
 
or
 
First match since Hong Kong is defined as a country in HT World??
 
 
 
2. If the answer for last question is ''First match since Hong Kong is defined as a country in HT World''
 
Then which match should I choose from if there are more than one matches playing at the same time??
 
The smaller MatchId??
 
Reference: http://www.hattrick.org/Common/leagueFixtures.asp?LeagueLevelunitID=13508&Season=1
 
(Just add the number after ''www'' same as the one that you see after you have logged in.)
 
 
 
 
P.S. Have you contact Aurandon about the personal comments on the U-20 World Cup page??
 
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 
 
That's good, because HK best ever team is also one of the team in that match!!
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 
 
== Re:Ru/Auto-promotion ==
Actually, all Russian editors can't find exact translation of these two terms. Some Russian HT users just use the russian spelling of english terms like Автопромоушен(Auto-promotion) and Скиллтрейдинг(for Skill trading). So it was decided not to translate these terms since the exact translation would be found. --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 
What for? I think it's more correct to leave them in English, as now --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 
Ok, I'll try to find the correct version for all articles with English names. I hope, I'll do it today. --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
BTW, we are not planning to translate names of Federations, for example, so, there will be two (or even more) alphabets anyway! --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 
That's me again :) Some terms like Clubhouse aren't translated to Russian even in HT. What do you prefer: to translate them in wiki anyway, or to leave their English name? --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 
So, you see, it's impossible to get rid of English terms in Russian wiki :( --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 10:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== Re:Empty pages  ==
I am sorry that I don't know the code(template) for deleted page.
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 03:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== Category: Administrators ==
Ahh, I must have had a brain lapse while going through those! Sorry about that --[[User:SassineFC|SassineFC]] 14:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 
==Categories==
As you have noticed i've been working on categorizing all the current pages and am finally finished!  I've added a category (Category:Miscellaneous) that contains a handful of articles that I couldn't determine an appropriate category but may not be candidates for deletion (a big may).--[[User:SassineFC|SassineFC]] 19:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 
 
== Russian administrator? ==
Will there be any Russian administrator in wiki? %) --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 08:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 
 
--I asked HT-Tjecken in game message two weeks ago, I told him that I am the one who mainly edit Chinese page, and I want to be the Chinese HT Wiki moderator. Around 7-9days later, he replyied and now I am one of the administrators, I think you may ask HT-Tjecken in game message as well. [[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 
==Protecting page==
I want to protect my team page in Hattrick Wiki: [[Team:DDT Mathematics United]]
 
Will that violate the rule of Administrator?? Cause I don't want the other to edit my team page.
 
[[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 09:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 
 
Alright then!![[User:Newmathsking|newmathsking]] 04:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 
 
== Cyrillic tooltips? ==
 
I've just noticed that the tooltips for everything in the navigation toolbar on the side and the article toolbar on the top are in Cyrillic for me.  Is something from the Russian side spilling over accidentally? --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:I'm using Firefox in Linux.  If I hover my mouse pointer over one of the tabs on a page (say, the discussion tab on this page), I get a tooltip in Cyrillic.  As I've noted in a separate reply to Aakholop, I checked my preferences and my language is set to English.  I didn't find any other settings that looked like they control this. --[[User:Mr Wednesday|Mr Wednesday]] 17:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 
You can change it in your preferences("настройки" in Russian). --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 07:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Is there any progress with wiki domains? ==
 
%) --[[User:Aakholop|aakholop]] 07:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== The Hebrew Wiki ==
 
There is also hattrick wiki in Hebrew named: "Wikattrick", here-
 
http://he.hattrick.wikia.com
 
עברית (Hebrew)
 
I'll be glad if you will add it to the main page - thanks!
You can contact me in HTmail: MELAFEFON-omerzigdon
 
Omer
 
== Hebrew wiki start ==
 
Ok, I've sent you and HTmail before you contacted me, so you might better see it. The articles also need to be He/?
 
 
== I will. How should I call the subcategories? ==
--[[User:Omerzigdon|Omerzigdon]] 11:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 
== STOP! ==
 
Can you stop with reverting my page? I don't want more to put my team into Hattrick Wiki, then delete articles of my team and don't revert them!
If you revert, you will never got a rest, because I will delete it every!
Thank for your help!
See ya!
 
== Team page ==
 
OK! I understand your position! Your intention is good! Okay then, keep the page in HT-wiki.
But, why you delete the players data from the Bruno Bezzera and keep of the other players?
Thanks!
 
== Team page 2 ==
 
Is very good that team page is proteceted, so the data will be very "refreshed"!
But, if more, don't apper vandalism! ^^
Good to make a team memory forever!

Latest revision as of 21:40, 1 September 2012

Archive 2006
Archive 2007
Archive 2008
Archive 2009

Template:Postid

Even though the link does not show, if you log in through that link, the thread will be showed. Is it good enough to restore that link? --Mod-Geek 15:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

change of pagina title

Hey,

I changed my pagina Title again, because my team name is commonly known as Red Star Brussels. In Belgium, team prefixes are often based on the origins of the team, but are not always referred to in common talk or writing. I prefer to keep the standard name thus. Also, i wouldn't want to go change all my other articles that are connected to it again...

I moved the page again (this time correctly) because that is the team's full name. Pages that link to Red Star Brussels still lead to the correct article, so no need to change them. --Jhattara 21:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Big red button?

Your bot page mentions a "big red button", but such a button is not in evidence. --Mr_Wednesday 17:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Good catch. I removed that sentence from the template. --Jhattara 07:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Country data templates

Just curious what you're up to with all of these new templates? I assume it's part of a bigger plan. --Mr_Wednesday 19:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Trying to reduce the number of active templates and make using and editing them a bit easier. With all those Country data templates formatted exactly the same way it's easy for me to put a bot if they need some editing, if the core template is in need of improvements. And if just the flag and flagicon (maybe others in the future) need fixing, I just need to edit them, instead of hundreds of templates. Instead of the current {{Flag/ALG}} and {{Flag/ALGn}} with these you can use {{Flagicon|Algeria}} or {{Flag|ALG}}. I have lots of ideas how to improve this wiki, this is just one I thought I could start doing by myself. --Jhattara 19:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Regions in Turkey

That might be a good idea yea :). All the links are in the Template. ZF-Nightwish 17:55, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Not that I know, I'm checking the countries one by one now. If they added 50 regions somewhere else I let you know. ZF-Nightwish 18:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Club template

Template:Club A user changed and redicected this. Now it doesn't work properly. Can you revert the edits to the old version? Thanks Hellas220 07:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Can you tell me the pages where it doesn't work properly. --Jhattara 08:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Ferentillese

Hi, I created the page about my team. Can I do it or it's a problem? --Ichabod-Crane 10:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I'll do some modifications there for administration reasons, unless another admin gets there before myself. --Jhattara 13:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thank you very much --Ichabod-Crane 10:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion: Translation

Not knowing where to place this one, I'll do it on a discussion page - and of all users listed as admin I just picked you. Bad luck :p Well... what I'm just after stumbling upon, is this: Google Translate extension for MediaWiki.

For instance (MediaWiki experienced know that: internationalization is a long process) and for user pages such as their clubs this would be a neat addon. Counterpart is the negative prestige Google has even among IT professionals (many of them still only are too thick to prevent being data-mined by just anyone).

I'm not affiliated with Google, and seriously: I prefer proper translation to some bot. But well... in the meantime... :) •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 14:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Google Translate at best creates confusion, at worst outright misunderstanding. So in short: If it's up to me Google Translate won't be used in here. --Jhattara 18:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Loops?

Spontaneously I couldn't find something over here, be it mediawiki, help or templates...

Is this MediaWiki installation able to handle loops? Something like LoopFunctions? Loops would be deadly necessary for abstract templates being able to handle an arbitrary number of input variables; such as squad templates, match templates (goals, cards; all that differs). Additionally I found no template that flexible...

Sorry for bothering you on your discussion site, but I also miss portals here :) Or I've been just too thick to find them until now. •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 13:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I haven't looked into the loop templates. If you can give me examples that have been done using those, I could look into them. As for portals: feel free to make them yourself, if you feel like you're up for the task. --Jhattara 18:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
If "make them for myself" means just create them, I guess it's okay with me whenever I find the time. As for loops: take a look at User:Lirion/Sandbox/Squad. This is 32 times a bunch of code and excludes people who want more than 32 players, where one time would be enough adding two or three lines and would make this FLEXIBLE. Plus: changing code there is a heckload of fumbly work. In the long run this will save mentionable database space; meanwhile it will save us editors a LOT OF WORK. Take a look at the extension I linked before, it integrates fine (I already did this with MediaWiki 1.15). This will at least introduce for-loops to MediaWiki. If this now isn't enough said, ask a programmer; if it is enough, you are one yourself ;) •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 23:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
PS: If I got you wrong now and there ARE loops already integrated, then ignore the above and please tell me where to find them :) •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 23:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
P.P.S. Special:Version only lists ParserFunctions, and this does not include loops
Instead of using looping templates you can always use the model Header template:Line template:End template, like the Category:Infobox templates. But I'll look into those loops, when I get the time. And yeah, you can just create the portals if you feel like it. --Jhattara 23:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
HeaderTemplate:LineTemplate:EndTemplate don't save work as I described above... in the ideal case of only one line per player the squad of a team with 32 players results in 32 lines; with a loop this will be 3 lines(!!!). Your example needs still to be called 32 times, a loop example will call itself 32 times with no extra code, none, nay. If you ever come to programming, you will stumble upon loops - they just are an essential. Just for info :) Thanks for looking that up. Hopefully we'll soon see the ext =) •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 09:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
P.S.: Plus: A template like you described will have, let's say, 50 if expressions which have to be worked every time someone calls it up. (Do we have a 40th player? Do we have a 41st player? Do we do we do we...) A team with 16 players still will need 50 calls! A loop will only need 16 calls, and another team with 27 players takes its 27 calls. Period. I can't stress too much how much work you save for the servers (load balancing) and for the users, sorry. •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 12:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
How much more efficiently this could be done: FC_Kakskerta#Current_Players ? Ok, now I use 4 different template, calling one of those once for each player, and a start, mid and end template. But I can't see the advantage. --Jhattara 16:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
At the moment, this seems to be a valid argument concerning effectiveness :) However, if you like centralization, then loops get interesting... here's my effort: User:Lirion/Sandbox/Squad. I'm the person who puts the (mechanical) brain before the data and not vice versa. Thence my call for loops. I guess, in this case you are right :) I don't even know which variant is faster with MediaWiki - yours or mine with loops. Would have to be tested :) •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 18:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Okay. I guess what finally made me do the centralization thing, was the thought of sortable tables. I never tried to split up a table and somehow seemed to have thought that you can't sort tables put together by other tables (which would be right, but not if you do it with parts).
So big, big sorry for making such a fuss about something which will, definitely, be a nice feature but isn't that deadly necessary. •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 14:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
No problem. --Jhattara 18:53, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

New templates

Thank you Jhattara, I will work soon for a new template for leagues. It's very hard to update League Series and sometimes boring. If you have an idea, please tell me.

By the way, I've been breaking my mind trying to put the age of the player, I have this source but I don't know how the change the year in order to have 112 days per year. Do you have any idea? --Lleida 19:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Age calculator: I will wait for one day to check if it works and then I will add it in new templates. Done (see in Template:Es/Contar días)
Thank you very much! It's working in Template:Infobox Player --Lleida 12:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Current spam problem

As you can see on the Recent Changes Page, our wiki has recently been discovered as easily accessible for spam (bots).

I urge all active administrators to immdiately take countermeasures; such as a captcha for the registration process. That is spread all over Wikipedia, so there's at least one mediawiki extension known to work fine and easy to implement.

Thank you for reading. •  Lirion (Λιριων, Лирион, ليريون)  wtf? • 08:02, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

trophy templates

The user Para Para make a image link on all the Trophy templates. I did a backup and asked him about that. I saw that you worked about Trophy templates so I reported that to you. Bye. --Lucaxvi 21:40, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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