User talk:Mikkel

Hello Mikkel,

Please stop with your editing.

You have no authority to decide by yourself which articles are relevent and which aren't.

If you wish to raise the subject you can propose a policy, for now all you are doing is destroying other people's work. --Giggsip 17:22, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

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You ought to read the main page, Giggsip. Please stop creating articles that aren't relevant to Hattrick.

mikkel 17:33, December 4, 2005 (UTC)

Actually I read the main page and there isn't currently a single article you vandalized that isn't related to Hattrick in some way.

You vandalized articles about regions in Israel which are legit regions in Hattrick, you can see a list of them here:Hattrick Israeli Regions.

You also vandalized the 3 articles about common Israeli names for teams that appear here for all countries: Team_names and are used in Hattrick as default prefixes for new teams created.

Actually the only thing in common for all the articles you vandalized is that they are all related to Israel! --Giggsip 17:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Could the fact that the irrelevant articles that I have removed have all been about Israel be contributed to the fact that you make it your mission, according to your userpage, to add precisely that, and that all the articles I've edited have been in the "Recent Changes" section? Of course you wouldn't consider that, when you could take the easy route, hiding behind your religion, and accuse me of anti-semitism. That really is pathetic.

Let's take a look at the articles I've "vandalised".

Hapoel:

"Hapo'el Hatza'ir -(Hah-Poh-Ehl Hah-Tzah-Yeehr hebrew הפועל הצעיר) The Young Worker Labor Party, founded 1905 by pioneers of Second Aliyah, stressing Jewish labor as Zionist value ( Kibbush Ha'avoda) . First Jewish workers' party founded in Israel, whose members helped found the first kibbutz at Beit Alpha. Led by Aaron David Gordon."

While I'm sure that The Young Worker Labor Party fully indorse Hattrick, and that the first Kibbutz at Beit Alpha was really a Hattrick meet orchestrated by Aaron David Gordon who had a team in III.3, I really do not see how that has -anything- to do with Hattrick in any way. Whatsoever.

Maccabi:

"The word Maccabi (Mah-Kah-Beeh Hebrew: מכבי) used to refer to one of the Maccabees, whose story has become synonymous with courage, success and victory. Nowadays, several Israeli and Jewish organizations carry this name, such as sport associations, Medical centers and so on.

Maccabi is an abbreviation, it stands for: "Meeh Kahmokha Bahehleem Yidod" (Hebrew: מי כמוך באלים השם) and its meaning is: "Is there any god but you".

Famous clubs from Israel that use this title are: Maccabi Haifa Maccabi Tel Aviv Maccabi Petakh Tikva Maccabi Netanya"

Unless religion is a new aspect of Hattrick, I don't see how the story of the Maccabees have any influence on my team, or how the saying "Meeh Kahmokha Bahehleem Yidod" affects my weekly training, this still has no relevance.

Jerusalem:

"Jerusalem (31°46′N 35°14′E; Hebrew: יְרוּשָׁלַיִם (?); Yeh-Rooh-Shah-Lah-Yeehm; Arabic: القُدس ▶(?) al-Quds; official Israeli Arabic: أُورْشَلِيم Urshalim; see also names of Jerusalem) is an ancient Middle Eastern city of key importance to the religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The State of Israel has its capital at Jerusalem, although its right to do so is disputed.

With a population of 704,900 (as of December 31, 2004 [1]), it is a richly heterogeneous city, representing a wide range of national, religious, and socioeconomic groups. The section called the "Old City" is surrounded by walls and consists of four quarters: Jewish, Christian, Armenian, and Muslim.

The status of the city is hotly disputed. The 1949 cease-fire line between Israel and Jordan, also known as the Green Line, cuts through the city. Since its victory in the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel has controlled the entire city and claims sovereignty over it. According to an Israeli law from January 1950 Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. A Basic Law of Israel enacted in 1980 (the Jerusalem Law) affirmed that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, and is the center of Jerusalem District; indeed, since 1950, it serves as the country's seat of government and its capital. The UN Security Council Resolution 478 condemned the Jerusalem Law as "a violation of international law"."

The only thing in this article that has even the slightest bit of relevance is the bit with the coordinates. This Wiki is about -Hattrick-, and while a short statistical summary of the regions within the game is acceptable, albeit somewhat unnecessary, a full historical, political and religious summary is completely irrelevant and unneeded. Precisely the same information is available in vast detail on Wikipedia, so instead of reciting it here, add a link to the Wikipedia article, as it has been done with Jerusalem.

Please stop making irrelevant additions to articles. Wikis all have their individual purposes, and it makes no sense to clutter one with irrelevant information. Especially not when that information is available on Wikipedia. This is about Hattrick, so keep it about Hattrick.

mikkel 18:09, December 4, 2005 (UTC)

It's not exactly right place do discuss about it (remove it if you want it, Mikael). My advice is - rebuild all Israeli region pages similary like I made on Jerusalem and Beer Sheeva. This way pages will serve the main purpose - information about Hattrick and visitors will be able to follow Wikipedia.oprg link to know more about those regions.--LA-Motto 18:27:10, 2005-12-04 (UTC)

While I don't mind remaking articles to fit the purpose of a Wiki, I feel that articles regarding geographical locations should be written by people residing there, providing that they adhere to the Wiki and it's purpose. I did not intend to correct the articles, as I'm sure that other people can do a better job at that than me, but rather stop more from being made, and make it clear from the beginning that this Wiki isn't for religion, history and political articles.

mikkel 18:45, December 4, 2005 (UTC)

Actually if you actually checked what I added to this wikipedia, the actual editions and not just the articles in which I participated, you'll see that I didn't add any of that information.

Also you only posted part of the articles you removed. For example with Jerusalem you decided that the whole article should be destroyed even though it contained an infobox about the region. Forgot to mention that in your reply?

It is pretty clear you took on some crazy erasing crusade upon yourself and just destroyed anything in sight, not even bothering to really read what is written there. If you want to contribute then edit wisely, with emphasis on adding and not just removing anything and everything like User:LA-Motto did on Jerusalem and Beer Sheva. And as a start I expect you to restore/re-edit all the articles you already ruined.

And my goal was to add Hattrick related information, as you can actually see from all my edits on all the pages...I worked alot on categories and organization of the information in a comfortable way. --Giggsip 18:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh I read the articles, so that's a rather stupid thing to say. Just for your information, this is a "Wiki", not a "Wikipedia". "Wikipedia" is a site built on the WikiMedia software, meant as a free encyclopedia, while this is a site built on the WikiMedia software meant for Hattrick related articles.

I posted all of the articles I removed. I copypasted everything from the history page from before I removed the article, so these accusations are just pathetic, really.

It's pretty clear that you're just angered by being wrong. I removed articles of political, religious and historical nature, as this Wiki is intended solely for Hattrick, and all things relevant. I felt no need to edit them, as two of the three articles I deleted had nothing worth saving, and the third nothing more than what could easily be salvaged by looking at the historical pages. I do not intend to re-edit any of the articles, as LA-Motto beat me to it in the single article that had anything worth saving.

Please don't waste my time any more with this immaturity, Giggsip.

mikkel 18:45, December 4, 2005 (UTC)