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Važno: Trening je ubrzan od sezone 43 (Pigledaj Faster training next season). Imajte to na umu prilikom čitanja ovog teksta
Značaj treninga
Trening je jedan od najvažnijih aspekata za napredovanje team u Hetriku. Budite koncentrisani samo na treningu jednog skill i za nekoliko sezona imaće te jače skilove,a samim tim i jači tim. Mladi players treningom postasće zvezde, kojim će te profitirati ili ojačati vaš seniorski tim.
Svaki trening ima svoje prednosti i mane. Naprimer,treniranjem odbrane ograničeni ste formacijom sa pet odbrambenih u postavi (550,541,532),dok treniranjem golmana nemate limit u izboru formation.
Izbor trenirača
Izaberite prave igrače za trening. Četri faktora kojih treba razmotriti su .
- Glavni skil (goalkeeping, defending, playmaking, winger ili scoring)
- Godine
- Sekundarni skilovi
- Cena
Ne preporučuje se treniranje igrača koji nisu bar passable u glavnom skilu. Za početnike,igrači stari 17 godina sa primarnim skilom prosečan su veoma dobar izbor. Treniranjem igrača koji su prosečni ili dobri u primarnom do viših skilova (epski,magičan) nije baš isplativo, ali ni niski skilovi nisu isplativi na transfer listi. Da bi saznali idealni skil za prodaju,posetite ovaj sajt HAM Transfer Price Evaluation.
Mudro je kupovati igrače sa jakim sekundarnim skilovima,oni su skuplji za nabavku,ali se više isplate prilikom prodavanja.
Vrste treninga
The following contents are based on experience and/or research conducted by Hattrick users — which means that their veracity and accuracy have not been confirmed by any official statement, and consequently they do not necessarily reflect the game reality. Please take this into consideration!
U Hetriku, trening se održava jednom nedeljno. Obično samo igrači koji igraju na određenim pozicijama dobijaju određeni trening. Ako,na primer, trenirate forwards trening dobijaju samo igrači koji su igrali u napadu na jedan od dva nedeljna meča. Postoje jedanaest vrste treeninga. Svaki ima svoj potencijal za profit ili jačanje tima. Geneeralno,treninzi kao što su (goalkeeping, defending, playmaking, winger, i scoring) su najpopularniji u Hetriku.
Da bi iskoristili sve trening slotove neophodno je da svake nedelje zakazujete friendlies,kako bi igrači koji ne igraju u ligaškom meču dobili trening.
Igrač može dobiti najviše 90 minuta treninga nedeljno.Ako igrač ima više od 90 minuta treninga,on će dobiti samo najkorisnijih 90 minuta za poziciju na kojoj je odigrao.
Zagrade označavaju male eefekte,dok duple zagrade označavaju veoma male efekte treninga.
| Vrsta treninga | Trenira se | ...za... | Potrebni treninzi | Maksimalno se treniraju |
| Goalkeeping | Golmani | Golmane | 3 | 2 |
| Defending | Odbrana | Odbrambene, bekove ((ostale)) | 5 | 10 |
| Playmaking | Plejmejking | Plejmejkeeri (krila) ((ostali)) | 4 | 6 (4) |
| Scoring | Napad | Napadači ((ostali)) | 4 | 6 |
| Crossing (Winger) | Krilo | Krila (bekovi) ((ostali)) | 3 | 4 (4) |
| Defensive positions | Odbrana | Golmani, odbrambeni, plejmejkeri i krila ((ostali)) | 10 | 22 |
| Wing attacks | Krilo | Napadači i krila ((ostali)) | 5 | 10 |
| Shooting | Napad | Svi ((ostali)) | 7 | 20 |
| Set pieces | ((Svaki igrač koji je odigrao jedan meč)) | Sezona | 22 | |
| Short passes | Dodavanje | Plejmejkeri, krila i napadači ((ostali)) | 4 | 16 |
| Through passes | Dodavanje | Odbrambeni, plejmejkeri i krila ((ostali)) | 5 | 20 |
| Set pieces | Prekidi | Svi koji su odigrali meč, 25% bonusa za izvođača prekida i golmana | 1 | 22 |
Please note the 'Training Speed' numbers are based on 100% training intensity, 15% stamina training, 17 year old trainees having a skillup from solid to excellent, using a solid coach, and 10 assistants. A training speed of, lets say, 3.7 weeks is presented in this table as 4 trainings required to pop to excellent, since a player cannot pop in a middle of a week.
A very rough rule is that for each year above 17 it takes approximately 4% longer to train a player than stated in the above table.
Also note that these training speed values are given as an average, and can (and will) vary from player to player. This means, for example, that if the value presented for a given training is 5 weeks, some players will take 4, others 6, but if you look at a large number of players they should average at 5. This might be due to the fact that the player gets a part of the next level after a pop. When that happens he needs less time to pop again. For example: When the first pop ends up to solid and a very little bit (7,02) he needs more time to go to excellent than when his first pop gives him a bit more (7,12).
Training efficiency factors
Training intensity
Most team managers agree it is best to train at 100% intensity. The benefits are clear in that skills increase more quickly, and there is also the likelihood of better form.
Unfortunately, there is also an increased chance of injury.
Effect of stamina training
The amount of training that you devote to stamina will cut into the amount of skill training accomplished each week. You will have to balance the amount of stamina training you need to maintain your preferred squad level (as well as any added stamina for trainees).
Effect of coach
To achieve the optimal training time requires a coach with solid coaching skills. A coaching level below that lengthens training time. A general rule of thumb is one extra week for every level below solid, although this rule is not so accurate with the faster training types.
Excellent coaches train slightly faster than solid ones by roughly half a week but are generally seen as too expensive to be profitable in the long term.
Effect of player age
Young players train much faster than old players. To achieve the optimal training time, many managers prefer trainees between the ages of 17 and 20, with 17 or 18 the best age to start training. Clubs at higher series levels may prefer to train older players at a higher skill level in order to remain competitive in both the league and the cup.
Older players are slower to train, and a good rule of thumb is one half extra week for every year older than 17. More precisely, training becomes approx. 4% slower for every year above this (also called trainings speed depreciation).
As a player reaches 27 his abilities may start to decrease. This process doesn't occur constantly, and there is no guarantee it will happen at all. Typically, very small decreases occur for players around 30, considerably larger leaps for players around 35. For some reason, these decreases in abilities always surface on Mondays. Certain skills are harder to maintain as players grow older — scoring ability is the hardest to maintain, whilst goalkeeping is the easiest.
Effect of assistants
Assistant coaches also help with training. A team may only have 10 of any one type of staff. It is not always in a team's best interest to hire all the possible assistants. The effect of each additional assistant decreases fast. The effect of additional assistants most probably follows a square root dependence. Hence four assistants improve the training twice as much as only one assistant does, and nine assistants improve the training three times as much ( sqrt(9) vs sqrt(4) vs sqrt(1) ).
Another model suggests that each additional assistant coach is worth 50% of the previous. If that is the case then you get something like this:
- 1 = 100%
- 2 = 50%
- 3 = 25%
- 4 = 12.5%
- 5 = 6.25%
- 6 = 3.125%
- 7 = 1.5625%
- 8 = 0.78125%
- 9 = 0.390625%
- 10 = 0.1953125%
New clubs and clubs in financial difficulty should always bear this in mind when trying to make savings.
- For more information, see: Staff.
Training loss
Main article: Training loss
Nowadays (specifically, after season 43's changes), the only way to have a week training loss is by causing a Walkover in any match of the week (cup, friendly or league matches).
When to cash in
The following contents are based on the opinion of Hattrick users — which means that their veracity and accuracy have not been confirmed by any official statement, and consequently they do not necessarily reflect the game reality. Please take this into consideration!
In most cases selling trainees at age 21 is the best way to maximise profit. Once a player hits 21 years old, he begins to train at a noticeably slower rate compared to a younger player.
With particularly high skilled players, especially National Team players, training can be taken on further, but in general the financial returns decrease beyond the age of 21.
It is also worth noting it is possible to overtrain a player, and make him unsustainable in the long run due to the extremely high wages. The recent market deflation also makes selling unprofitable after 21.
Advanced training
- Skill trading - Primarily refers to buying players believed to be close to "popping", ideally within one to two weeks, benefiting from market inefficiency in valuing partially trained players. This approach is difficult with any skill other than goalkeeping, due to the inexact correspondence of TSI to player skills.
- Osmosis training - Up to global season 34, every player in a team got at least a bit of training, even if they didn't play at all. Many teams profited from this by buying a lot of players (up to 50) and waiting for a pop in a few weeks while doing nothing. But from season 35 every player needs to play at least once in a week to get the minimum training, effectively decreasing the profitability of this technique.
But it could be that the goal of maximizing profit is a goal that does not optimise the team over time. Some users believe it is better to develop your own players to advance in the series system, rather than to optimise economical goals. It is after all a football manager game!
Individual training instruction
On the 3rd of July 2008, Hattrick announced that Individual training instruction was available. This means you may exclude up to three players from getting any training (except Stamina) at all from playing a game. The main point of this feature is to avoid paying excessive salaries for players that are already very highly skilled. You access this feature from your Training page.
Individual training has a very different meaning in a Youth Academy. If Individual training is selected, each player randomly gets a small boost to a relevant skill, eg- keepers will increase keeper, defense or set pieces, while a midfielder will increase playmaking, passing, defense or set pieces. The owner has no control over which skill gets chosen, though, and a skill that is already capped may get picked, resulting in no training for that player. Individual training is rarely used as result of this random factor and the extremely slow speed at which it operates.